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Big Beef Tacosupreme

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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #4354 on: May 28, 2020, 11:03:23 AM »
Quote from: Cincydawg on May 28, 2020, 10:51:42 AM
I find FB to be entertaining, and somewhat illuminating.  Those are pluses in my book.

It is certainly used to circulate idiotic twaddle and falsehoods, but so is rumor and innuendo verbally, and that cannot be readily countered.

I think foreign bots have generated a lot of misleading memes about wearing a face mask, and they seem difficult to counter there are so many.
They identified that 50% of "open XXXX" facebook and twitter posts were bots.

pretty nuts.
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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #4355 on: May 28, 2020, 11:07:13 AM »
I don't see anywhere near that percentage as being likely of bot origin, maybe two percent.  I see a lot of animal photos and memes, I don't know why a bot would produce them.  Some are rather amusing, with zero political relevance.

The one's that have some political relevance may be half bots, I don't know, but I frankly don't see that many on my feed in FB, they are usually from the same 4 or 5 people, equally distributed on each side.  One guy is truly consumed with anything negative about Trump, which is fine, but he seems a bit unbalanced.

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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #4356 on: May 28, 2020, 11:39:46 AM »
Quote from: Cincydawg on May 28, 2020, 11:07:13 AM
I don't see anywhere near that percentage as being likely of bot origin, maybe two percent.  I see a lot of animal photos and memes, I don't know why a bot would produce them.  Some are rather amusing, with zero political relevance.

The one's that have some political relevance may be half bots, I don't know, but I frankly don't see that many on my feed in FB, they are usually from the same 4 or 5 people, equally distributed on each side.  One guy is truly consumed with anything negative about Trump, which is fine, but he seems a bit unbalanced.


https://www.businessinsider.com/nearly-half-of-reopen-america-twitter-accounts-are-bots-report-2020-5

https://www.businessinsider.com/nearly-half-of-reopen-america-twitter-accounts-are-bots-report-2020-5
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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #4357 on: May 28, 2020, 11:51:49 AM »
Yeah, nearly half of a subset of twitter accounts are bots, I could see that.  I don't do Twitter, but I could believe half of any political group might be bots.

But not half of all accounts, or all FB memes.
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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #4358 on: May 28, 2020, 11:52:19 AM »
I think CD is talking more about Facebook than twitter.

And I don't have many problems with Facebook. It's a great way to keep extended family and distant friends up to date about my kids, and what we're up to as a family. And for me to follow their activities, likewise.

If people post annoying political crap I just ignore it.  From my observation, people who get upset about Facebook posts, are looking for a fight anyway.  I have no interest in that so it's easy to ignore.

I'd say that I think twitter is worse, except I don't see enough twitter even to know, really.  Certainly anytime someone tries to cite a twitter quote as a news source, I 100% ignore it.  But I don't get on twitter deliberately anyway, so really the only time I see it is when someone on Facebook, or a message board, quotes it.
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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #4359 on: May 28, 2020, 11:52:42 AM »
Quote from: Big Beef Tacosupreme on May 28, 2020, 11:03:23 AM
They identified that 50% of "open XXXX" facebook and twitter posts were bots.

pretty nuts.
I don't know what "open XXXX" means.
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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #4360 on: May 28, 2020, 12:02:44 PM »
Quote from: Cincydawg on May 28, 2020, 09:46:21 AM

I think the stock market is overvalued at the moment.  Certainly there will be an economic downturn that will last for months or possibly longer.  It's weird to see the stock market going up while unemployment numbers are at all time highs. 
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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #4361 on: May 28, 2020, 12:07:50 PM »
Quote from: utee94 on May 28, 2020, 11:52:19 AM
I think CD is talking more about Facebook than twitter.

And I don't have many problems with Facebook. It's a great way to keep extended family and distant friends up to date about my kids, and what we're up to as a family. And for me to follow their activities, likewise.

If people post annoying political crap I just ignore it.  From my observation, people who get upset about Facebook posts, are looking for a fight anyway.  I have no interest in that so it's easy to ignore.

I'd say that I think twitter is worse, except I don't see enough twitter even to know, really.  Certainly anytime someone tries to cite a twitter quote as a news source, I 100% ignore it.  But I don't get on twitter deliberately anyway, so really the only time I see it is when someone on Facebook, or a message board, quotes it.
There are things I love about facebook.  I had a conversation with a guy I haven't seen in 25 years just yesterday.  Because I travel a lot, I will often look to see who I know that might be in the area.  It's great for that.

However, the endless political battles, fake news, conspiracy theories, and multi-level marketing stuff is ALMOST is enough for me to delete it entirely. 
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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #4362 on: May 28, 2020, 12:08:34 PM »
It is VERY typical for the stock market to go UP when unemployment reaches its zenith. 

That doesn't mean we can't see a dead cat bounce here, but in history, the turning point has nearly always been the peak of UE.  The issue is being sure about that peak.

https://www.crystalbull.com/stock-market-timing/Unemployment-chart/
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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #4363 on: May 28, 2020, 12:13:35 PM »
I'd also note that a lot of money got pulled out of the market over the past 3 months and went to cash (equivalents), and you can't get much yield at all there.  Interest rates won't go much lower, and are likely to go higher, making any fixed income investment a bad bet.

So, investors are assessing stocks as the lesser risk.  I have been nibbling some, i went pretty hard into cash back in August, more than my core model would recommend.
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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #4364 on: May 28, 2020, 12:17:41 PM »
Quote from: Big Beef Tacosupreme on May 28, 2020, 12:07:50 PM
There are things I love about facebook.  I had a conversation with a guy I haven't seen in 25 years just yesterday.  Because I travel a lot, I will often look to see who I know that might be in the area.  It's great for that.

However, the endless political battles, fake news, conspiracy theories, and multi-level marketing stuff is ALMOST is enough for me to delete it entirely. 
Yeah.  Like I said, that stuff doesn't bother me because I just ignore it.
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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #4365 on: May 28, 2020, 12:18:47 PM »
Quote from: Cincydawg on May 28, 2020, 12:08:34 PM
It is VERY typical for the stock market to go UP when unemployment reaches its zenith. 

That doesn't mean we can't see a dead cat bounce here, but in history, the turning point has nearly always been the peak of UE.  The issue is being sure about that peak.

https://www.crystalbull.com/stock-market-timing/Unemployment-chart/

I don't think this is a typical UE situation.  

I'm of the opinion that most of our UE is temporary.  Most people will get their jobs back once things start to reopen.  

HOWEVER, not everyone will get their jobs back.  This "long term unemployment" would be more comparable with your link.  I don't think we have quite peaked there yet.
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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #4366 on: May 28, 2020, 12:19:12 PM »
Quote from: Big Beef Tacosupreme on May 28, 2020, 12:07:50 PM
However, the endless political battles, fake news, conspiracy theories, and multi-level marketing stuff is ALMOST is enough for me to delete it entirely. 
Yep. I couldn't take it. I couldn't look at it and not want to argue with someone--or punch someone in the face. 

I still have a FB account, but it basically exists so that I can use Messenger. I never log into FB to look at posts. 
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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #4367 on: May 28, 2020, 12:23:16 PM »
Quote from: bwarbiany on May 28, 2020, 12:19:12 PM
Yep. I couldn't take it. I couldn't look at it and not want to argue with someone--or punch someone in the face.

I still have a FB account, but it basically exists so that I can use Messenger. I never log into FB to look at posts.
Punch some one in the face!  I have to say- I busted out laughing seeing that from you.   😂
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