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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #3808 on: May 14, 2020, 11:37:26 AM »
How strange.  I wonder why that is.
I will explain it to you.  People want an outlet that is either more fact based, or that panders to their narrative.

i would assume that is why Fox News Ratings FAR surpass CNNs, and why the gap is growing.  CNN panders to the extreme left, IMHO, while Fox panders to conservatives in right, but NOT the far right.
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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #3809 on: May 14, 2020, 11:37:37 AM »
I assume any large population who has been exposed to his words/beliefs/actions would also not be a fan of him.


Enough were fans to vote him into office ... apparently, if I recollect rightly.  I imagine they had all been suitable "exposed".

Of course, these days it's reasonable to presume many voters were simply voting LOTE.

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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #3810 on: May 14, 2020, 11:38:13 AM »
I don't know so much about that... Fox news is one of the outlets that complains about the mainstream media, so I'm not sure they themselves would identify as MSM.
The cable news network with the most viewers isn't mainstream.  How brilliant is that?!?

Maybe the mainstream media are the channels that don't type out everything said aloud, because their average viewer isn't 106 years old?
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« Reply #3811 on: May 14, 2020, 11:39:28 AM »
I will explain it to you.  People want an outlet that is either more fact based, or that panders to their narrative.

i would assume that is why Fox News Ratings FAR surpass CNNs, and why the gap is growing.  CNN panders to the extreme left, IMHO, while Fox panders to conservatives in right, but NOT the far right.
Whew. 
I wish I knew the date CNN became extreme left.  I thought that was MSNBC's role.  Hmmph.
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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #3812 on: May 14, 2020, 11:40:08 AM »
Hear is a current report on hospitalizations

I realize going forward is what counts

https://www.kvue.com/article/news/health/coronavirus/coronavirus-texas-hospitalizations-drop-slightly-deaths-hold-steady/269-a4594edb-4ba0-4ca3-ac0e-7185bd4e8dd4
Good data. Thanks.

Big jump in late April, but modest declines since then. Good to see.

I do agree with @utee94 that if the number of hospitalizations are going to jump from reopening, it would most dramatically be seen starting 10-14 days after reopening, so next week's number from May 12-18--as well as the one following that--will be key metrics. 

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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #3813 on: May 14, 2020, 11:40:25 AM »
I assume any large population who has been exposed to his words/beliefs/actions would also not be a fan of him.
Maybe it's less a "the media is out to get him and bring him down" thing and more of a "look at the 2016 voting results of where he's from" thing.
Again, time will tell, but your are grasping here.  His popularity is very high statistically right now. He very well may be re-elected.

pick a politician, let’s say Obama.  A large population here was exposed to his words/ beliefs/ actions and were not a fan of him.
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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #3814 on: May 14, 2020, 11:40:55 AM »
Whew. 
I'll pray for you.
No need.  You should pray for yourself though. 
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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #3815 on: May 14, 2020, 11:41:34 AM »
I don't know so much about that... Fox news is one of the outlets that complains about the mainstream media, so I'm not sure they themselves would identify as MSM.
Fox news has more viewers then any other cable news channel
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« Reply #3816 on: May 14, 2020, 11:42:25 AM »
pick a politician, let’s say Obama.  A large population here was exposed to his words/ beliefs/ actions and were not a fan of him.
Those people were also exposed to his skin tone.
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« Reply #3817 on: May 14, 2020, 11:42:57 AM »
No need.  You should pray for yourself though.
What should I ask for?  That's what praying is, right?  Groveling or greed.
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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #3818 on: May 14, 2020, 11:45:01 AM »
Fox news has more viewers then any other cable news channel
Yes, but fewer than ABC/NBC/CBS by a fairly large number.

We swapped a man with a kind of brown skin tone for one who is kind of orange.

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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #3819 on: May 14, 2020, 11:47:01 AM »
I will explain it to you.  People want an outlet that is either more fact based, or that panders to their narrative.

i would assume that is why Fox News Ratings FAR surpass CNNs, and why the gap is growing.  CNN panders to the extreme left, IMHO, while Fox panders to conservatives in right, but NOT the far right.
MSNBC panders to the extreme left. Fox panders to the right. And per the below chart, both would be pandering--they inject a lot more opinion/persuasion into their reporting than just reporting facts directly.

CNN is center-left and higher on the "reporting/analysis" spectrum rather than "opinion/persuasion", but not as high or as centrist as outlets like NPR. 


https://www.adfontesmedia.com/interactive-media-bias-chart/?v=402f03a963ba

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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #3820 on: May 14, 2020, 11:48:05 AM »
Guys, let's not go down this route. I'd hate to see Badge have to close this thread. We've mostly stayed above that crap.

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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #3821 on: May 14, 2020, 11:49:19 AM »
Those people were also exposed to his skin tone.
Race baiting now I see.   Not a very wise or accurate assumption by the way.
take me for example.  Well educated, fiercely independent, very biased towards live and let live, well above average understanding of economics ( since that is what my undergrad and grad degrees are in).

i eagerly voted for Obama in his first term.   But I did not like his words/ beliefs/ actions.  I did. It vote for him the second time.  I did however support him because I believe a citizen should support the President.

but their has been data ad nauseam published that shows many people who voted for Obama, especially in the upper middle class suburbs, also voted for Trump.

are you seriously going to say they let his skin color effect their second vote? 
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