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Topic: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas

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bayareabadger

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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #3794 on: May 14, 2020, 10:55:00 AM »
I think by mainstream he means nationally viewed news shows or an article in a widely circulated newspaper.

Yes, all of the evidence that HCQ can help Covid patients is anecdotal. On the other hand, the studies that show it isn’t much help are observational studies. They aren’t randomized and controlled which is the gold standard of clinical trials.

As long as patients are made aware of all of this before being prescribed it I don’t see the fuss.  It’s been around forever.  Doctors know the side effects associated with it and what medications to avoid being taken with it.


It was on NPR and Fox News. 

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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #3795 on: May 14, 2020, 10:58:14 AM »
It was given to 39 nursing home patients with the virus and not one of them died

what is vague about that
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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #3796 on: May 14, 2020, 10:59:26 AM »
It was on NPR and Fox News.
It was on to report the drug was being given but the results were not reported
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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #3797 on: May 14, 2020, 11:03:46 AM »
It was on NPR and Fox News.
First of all nobody watches or listens to NPR

Second yep Fox News has a different agenda
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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #3798 on: May 14, 2020, 11:09:56 AM »
I don't think the media are trying to keep something a secret here.  The news about this has been presented and passed by more recent information.

You might notice that Trump and Fox News stopped talking about it.  There's your sign.

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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #3799 on: May 14, 2020, 11:14:13 AM »
It was on NPR and Fox News.
Then he was wrong. It was reported.

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« Reply #3800 on: May 14, 2020, 11:26:05 AM »
NPR is a medium for sure.  I don't think it meets his later addition of "mainstream media" though.  Not many people listen to NPR.

A lot of people watch Fox News, so I consider it mainstream.   But half the people in the country refuse to watch it, so unless it's reported by CNN or the national ABC/NBC/CBS news programs (not local affiliates), then I can still understand his point that at least half the country never saw it.

Still, it does appear to be somewhat old and many reports have come out since, that have not shown it to be promising.  Take from that what you will.


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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #3801 on: May 14, 2020, 11:28:11 AM »
I'll be curious to see what things look like in 2 weeks, both here and in GA.
Texas began "reopening" on May 1 as well.  We're now 2 weeks into it, so if hospitalizations are going to increase, they'd be starting right about now.  

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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #3802 on: May 14, 2020, 11:28:29 AM »
where have you been?

all you get from main stream media is gloom and doom
Can you define exactly who is considered "main stream media"? I see it talked about all the time, but who qualifies?

Obviously I know CNN will qualify, but who else?


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as to why well its pretty obvious to me that the media want this country to stay closed down 
CNN, for example, is owned by AT&T. AT&T's stock is down ~25% since the mid-March when the lockdowns started. CNN's sister division is sports, which obviously has very little content to show now. Their customers have trouble getting to stores to buy new cellphones--the mobile/handset business has cratered over the last few months. 

Most of the mainstream media are part of large enterprises, many of which are financially hurting because of the lockdown. Yet you think they *want* to continue it?


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as long as possible to damage POTUS
And I assume the rest of the world is in on it too? Europe has all closed down not because it's prudent, but because they're trying to damage POTUS?

I'll stipulate that most of what is considered the "mainstream media" is anti-Trump. However a much simpler explanation for keeping lockdowns is to save lives, not to damage POTUS. After all, these are all major corporations, and corpses don't make very good customers--so unless they've got a lot of side divisions in funeral homes and coffin building, it's not in their financial interest to make the lockdown any longer than it needs to be.


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Our weekly death count has decreased for the last 3 weeks in a row but you wont see that talked about anywhere
Literally the question of "when is it safe to reopen" is being talked about everywhere. Here in liberal California we're already seeing some reopening, and talking about dine-in restaurants being allowed to reopen.

Case rates, death rates, etc are constantly talked about. Heck, right on the NY Times (which I suppose is MSM?) coronavirus page they highlight in which states cases are increasing, which are staying the same, and which are decreasing. They also have a nice graph nationally that shows the 7-day moving average of daily deaths and it's showing a clear downward trend.

https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2020/us/coronavirus-us-cases.html

What I don't understand is that it seems the things you think aren't talked about anywhere are being literally talked about everywhere. 

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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #3803 on: May 14, 2020, 11:31:36 AM »
A lot of people watch Fox News, so I consider it mainstream.  But half the people in the country refuse to watch it, 

How strange.  I wonder why that is.
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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #3804 on: May 14, 2020, 11:32:59 AM »
A lot of people watch Fox News, so I consider it mainstream.
I don't know so much about that... Fox news is one of the outlets that complains about the mainstream media, so I'm not sure they themselves would identify as MSM.

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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #3806 on: May 14, 2020, 11:35:00 AM »
I'll stipulate that most of what is considered the "mainstream media" is anti-Trump. 
I assume any large population who has been exposed to his words/beliefs/actions would also not be a fan of him.
Maybe it's less a "the media is out to get him and bring him down" thing and more of a "look at the 2016 voting results of where he's from" thing.
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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #3807 on: May 14, 2020, 11:36:07 AM »
A reminder, about 30 million watch NETWORK news each news hour.  About 10 million watch all the cable news stations at the same time.


 

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