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Agreed.  But to me- it easily disproved your theory that he deserves ALL of his criticism.
those in public office or running for public office- who labeled that action, clearly had no right to. some have since admitted as much not most are still riding the train

what strikes me-and this is more intuitive than data based, is this:
his supporters are pretty cemented, as are his haters.  Not much will change.  But that (relatively small I am guessing) group in the middle, really independent as far as political affiliation, see the constant critique of him, much of it like stated above as not accurate and tend to gravitate more in his favor.

said another way- the lefts playbook of obstructing and criticizing has hurt them and will continue to- if their goal is to beat him at the polls. 

I don't think he's received any more UNDUE criticism than any president has.  It just seems like it, because the normal amount of undue criticism is being added to the gigantic volume of criticism he creates for himself, through his words and actions.

Look, I get it. Trump, to me, is just a really unlikeable person.  I’ve said before if I just wanted to have a couple of beers and casually shoot the bull for a little while I’d rather have Obama’s company over Trump’s any day of the week.  I mean, the dude really is kind of an asshole.

So I agree that Trump’s personality brings on extra criticism that he probably deserves. But even if you factor him being a jerk it still feels like the criticism is too much sometimes, imo.

31 December: The Wuhan Municipal Health Committee informed WHO of 27 "cases of pneumonia of unknown etiology (unknown cause) detected in Wuhan."

20 January: On 20 January, China National Health Commission confirmed that the virus was human-to-human transmissible

25 January: Chinese President Xi Jinping called the "accelerating spread" of the coronavirus a "grave situation"

30 January: WHO Situation Report 10:WHO declared the virus was a Public Health Emergency of International Concern and advised "all countries should be prepared for containment, including active surveillance, early detection, isolation and case management, contact tracing and prevention of onward spread of 2019-nCoV infection, and to share full data with WHO."

I wish someone on here could explain what the United States, with all these signs publicly known, let alone the intelligence that is not publicly known, was doing in January and February 2020 to prepare for a pandemic of epic proportion?

The United States exports of PPE to china increased in January and February 2020 from the same period in 2019 from $1.4M to $17.6M. Shipments of Ventilators to China in January and February 2020 compared to 2019 jumped from 2019 to 2020 in triple digit percentages. This doesn't include the 17 tons of PPE Mike Pompeo's State Department generously donated to China in February 2020.

If someone would, please explain what the United States did to prepare for the pandemic in January and February, other than restricting international travel from China and allowing only more than 40,000 people to fly here from China after January?

That said, if it can be pulled off without excessive loss of life (not sure what excessive would be), what about a 7-game Big Ten season starting in October, when football season used to start years ago? Let's try one nonconference game and 6 intradivisional games, with a Big Ten Championship game to follow. I doubt we can do it without a safe and effective antiviral drug, but we have to start thinking about what is possible. Some say Spring 2021. We could not have had a Spring 2020 football season, and from what I read the earliest a safe and effective vaccine could be developed and have wide distribution is 18-months from March. And, from what I understand that is extremely optimistic.

Good stuff. you can’t prepare for a pandemic in 30 days. 

if your a large hospital, health system with multiple hospitals, or a large city like NYC or Chicago, you have a pandemic plan in place. A specific plan which includes predetermined number of beds, ventilators and masks. 
We know have learned that many did not have a plan, or in the case of NYC ignored the requirements of their own plan. We now see a published report for example- from a government task force for the state of NY- which Cuomo received in 2015! It specifically told him he was short 15000 ventilators, just to name one thing.
now I am not trying to pick on him, but imagine how different the numbers and perception would be had NYC been prepared.
to throw gas on the fire- the mayor and Health commissioner there were Strongly encouraging people to be out and using the subway- in FEBRUARY!
so this is where a lot of people like me, who are not particularly fond of Trump, tend to gravitate toward him when we see the media completely ignoring what I just told you and blaming him when he’s the one that set the travel ban in place on Jan 31, while the large cities were unprepared, and many of our media and experts like Fox, CNN, New York Times, Boston Globe, Washington Post- even the great Dr. Fauci himself who had all the data at that time- got it wrong and were downplaying the severity.  

I give them all a “c” given the false info being provided- including the President.  

Seems there was a lot of PWI going on here last night.

Let's get back to the topic instead of trying to place blame for this. That rests with China, period, end of story.


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I am seeing more reports that many more folks test positive than was expected.  I think that could be "good" information.

They are positive with no symptoms.  It could be much wider spread than we thought, e.g., R naught is high, BUT the percentage who are asymptomatic is also high.  That puts elderly et al. at higher risk, but it's a smaller pool to manage.

We need more data.

That's basically all my posts at this point

So.. you are on Vegas time then?

So.. you are on Vegas time then?

Yes and my kids are all the annoying people on the strip begging for money and attention