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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #2198 on: April 18, 2020, 09:35:07 AM »
some cops are not very bright
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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #2199 on: April 18, 2020, 09:46:38 AM »
Quote from: Cincydawg on April 18, 2020, 09:17:31 AM
J&J says they can produce hundreds of millions of vaccines in a year IF the testing goes well.  That probably would build up effective herd immunity so R naught would be well under one. 

The scary thought is that another one can "pop up" any time, perhaps one more deadly and problematic.  Maybe we will learn from this one.

Maybe not.

Yup, I think there's some real value in this current pandemic, in preparing us for "The Big One."  Imagine something as violently deadly as ebola, but as infectious as this current novel coronavirus.

Of course, I've also seen ID specialists note that the nature of those super-catastrophic diseases like ebola, is that they burn out their victim so quickly that transmission is severely inhibited.  So maybe we'll never see such a thing.  I sure hope not.
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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #2200 on: April 18, 2020, 09:50:20 AM »
Quote from: MarqHusker on April 17, 2020, 11:58:24 PM
Respectfully disagree.  Way too much obsession with the Executive Branch this term, it's not healthy.  Orange man kicks a red ball every day and people go chasing after it, every single time.  Let the World 🌎  do its own spinning in the words of Mayor E.B. Farnum.
This guy, no matter if you like him, hate him, or are indifferent to him (me) was never, ever going to get a fair shake from the media, nor from the "other side". He's been under investigation for impeachment since day one, and still is. It's hard to "lead" under those conditions.
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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #2201 on: April 18, 2020, 09:50:48 AM »
Quote from: MrNubbz on April 18, 2020, 01:34:41 AM
you don't mean PT Barnum do you?
It's PJ Barnum, and why bring the Goophs into this?
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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #2202 on: April 18, 2020, 10:00:35 AM »
Quote from: 847badgerfan on April 18, 2020, 09:50:20 AM
This guy, no matter if you like him, hate him, or are indifferent to him (me) was never, ever going to get a fair shake from the media, nor from the "other side". He's been under investigation for impeachment since day one, and still is. It's hard to "lead" under those conditions.
his own "adopted" party doesn't even like him
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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #2203 on: April 18, 2020, 10:05:08 AM »
Outsiders tend to get frozen out. That starts in pre-school.
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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #2204 on: April 18, 2020, 10:15:12 AM »
Quote from: utee94 on April 18, 2020, 09:09:25 AM
I've read that it's possible it will mutate and weaken.  There's some thought that it has already done so and some strains are weaker than others.  That would be a positive thing, though I believe it makes developing a vaccine more difficult.

I'm not an infectious disease specialist nor did I stay at a Holiday Inn Express last night-- 'cause they're all closed.

if you think about it we dont even have a true flu vaccine else why does one have to get a flu shot year after year
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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #2205 on: April 18, 2020, 10:17:37 AM »
Im a big fan of the herd immunity theory as it may be the only true way to deal with this thing
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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #2206 on: April 18, 2020, 10:22:42 AM »
Quote from: 847badgerfan on April 18, 2020, 09:50:48 AM
It's PJ Barnum, and why bring the Goophs into this?
Um no it's PT Barnum - "a sucker is born every minute" - like Corona swillers
Edit - my bad I just got it,except for the Corona swillers
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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #2207 on: April 18, 2020, 10:31:11 AM »
Quote from: utee94 on April 18, 2020, 09:46:38 AM
Yup, I think there's some real value in this current pandemic, in preparing us for "The Big One."  Imagine something as violently deadly as ebola, but as infectious as this current novel coronavirus.
 :o  If that happens,well then there will be just survivalists,Indian Tribes,Amish and Farmers left.The only precious metals will be lead...surrounded by a copper jacket
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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #2208 on: April 18, 2020, 11:43:21 AM »
Quote from: MrNubbz on April 18, 2020, 01:31:37 AM
Hmm more like two wrongs don't make a right.I get free speech and all that but if she had a negative test result(at the time) then I sort of get the response.Could be viewed along the lines of yelling fire in a crowded theater with people on edge as this was breaking
What you're basically saying is "understandably, the mob got angry."
That's exactly when it is most important for the law to protect her rights, not be the enforcer for the mob.
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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #2209 on: April 18, 2020, 12:20:42 PM »
Quote from: longhorn320 on April 18, 2020, 10:15:12 AM
if you think about it we dont even have a true flu vaccine else why does one have to get a flu shot year after year
The influenza virus is known to mutate rapidly, so we need a new vaccine each year to compensate.  Corona virii generally do not mutate as much.

A vaccine can confer herd immunity.  That is why PH folks clamor for us all to get the flu vaccine each year.  It reduces R naught.

Probably within a decade we will face a much more lethal illness that spreads.  We're too interconnected now.
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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #2210 on: April 18, 2020, 12:25:10 PM »
Quote from: CWSooner on April 18, 2020, 11:43:21 AM
What you're basically saying is "understandably, the mob got angry."
That's exactly when it is most important for the law to protect her rights, not be the enforcer for the mob.
Agree completely.

Her rights were clearly violated and it's a bunch of bulljive that the department isn't backing down.
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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #2211 on: April 18, 2020, 12:27:11 PM »
Most perhaps understand that a pure democracy is "mob rule" in effect.
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