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MrNubbz

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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #2184 on: April 18, 2020, 01:18:35 AM »
Quote from: FearlessF on April 17, 2020, 11:21:42 PM
in my world, since 1976 and I'm sure LONG before that............. it's a poor bastage behind a podium taking cheap shots
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« Reply #2185 on: April 18, 2020, 01:18:56 AM »


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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #2186 on: April 18, 2020, 01:31:37 AM »
Quote from: bayareabadger on April 17, 2020, 11:02:56 PM
Weird story. I'm probably reading too much into the power of numbers element of it, but I thought it was interesting, free speech issues and such.

https://reason.com/2020/04/17/a-teenager-posted-about-her-covid-19-infection-on-instagram-a-deputy-threatened-to-arrest-her-if-she-didnt-delete-it/
Hmm more like two wrongs don't make a right.I get free speech and all that but if she had a negative test result(at the time) then I sort of get the response.Could be viewed along the lines of yelling fire in a crowded theater with people on edge as this was breaking
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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #2187 on: April 18, 2020, 01:34:41 AM »
Quote from: MarqHusker on April 17, 2020, 11:58:24 PM
 Let the World 🌎  do its own spinning in the words of Mayor E.B. Farnum.
you don't mean PT Barnum do you?
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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #2188 on: April 18, 2020, 08:37:04 AM »
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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #2189 on: April 18, 2020, 08:49:43 AM »
it leaves a lot to interpretation - which is fine with me.  Each state can interpret it as they feel needed.

I'm not big on testing

I think young people at low risk should be allowed to go about their lives

folks that are at risk or just don't feel safe can stay home
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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #2190 on: April 18, 2020, 08:54:26 AM »
Quote from: FearlessF on April 18, 2020, 08:49:43 AM
it leaves a lot to interpretation - which is fine with me.  Each state can interpret it as they feel needed.

I'm not big on testing

I think young people at low risk should be allowed to go about their lives

folks that are at risk or just don't feel safe can stay home

yep and after they do they can sleep in the back yard
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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #2191 on: April 18, 2020, 08:57:07 AM »
Quote from: MrNubbz on April 18, 2020, 01:31:37 AM
Hmm more like two wrongs don't make a right.I get free speech and all that but if she had a negative test result(at the time) then I sort of get the response.Could be viewed along the lines of yelling fire in a crowded theater with people on edge as this was breaking
it was definitely a violation of her civil rights and should be addressed 
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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #2192 on: April 18, 2020, 09:00:40 AM »
Quote from: longhorn320 on April 18, 2020, 08:54:26 AM
yep and after they do they can sleep in the back yard
Well sure.  People that are older and at-risk should still go about being very careful.  That could quite possibly mean less or no interaction with their kids.  At this point everyone should be aware of the dangers, and taking steps to manage their risks, to a level they are comfortable with.

This thing isn't going away.  It'll never be contained.  We're going to have to learn to live with it among us.  
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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #2193 on: April 18, 2020, 09:03:39 AM »
If this does not abate significantly over time, it will always pose a threat to the vulnerable obviously unless a vaccine is very effective and widely used.

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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #2194 on: April 18, 2020, 09:09:25 AM »
I've read that it's possible it will mutate and weaken.  There's some thought that it has already done so and some strains are weaker than others.  That would be a positive thing, though I believe it makes developing a vaccine more difficult.

I'm not an infectious disease specialist nor did I stay at a Holiday Inn Express last night-- 'cause they're all closed.
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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #2195 on: April 18, 2020, 09:10:26 AM »
Quote from: MrNubbz on April 18, 2020, 01:34:41 AM
you don't mean PT Barnum do you?
He does not. 
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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #2196 on: April 18, 2020, 09:17:31 AM »
J&J says they can produce hundreds of millions of vaccines in a year IF the testing goes well.  That probably would build up effective herd immunity so R naught would be well under one.  

The scary thought is that another one can "pop up" any time, perhaps one more deadly and problematic.  Maybe we will learn from this one.

Maybe not.
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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #2197 on: April 18, 2020, 09:19:03 AM »
Quote from: MrNubbz on April 18, 2020, 01:31:37 AM
Hmm more like two wrongs don't make a right.I get free speech and all that but if she had a negative test result(at the time) then I sort of get the response.Could be viewed along the lines of yelling fire in a crowded theater with people on edge as this was breaking
I mean, if we live in a world where the cops can come by and threaten you with a citation unless you take down that instagram post, we won't have much of a leg to stand on with all those rights Northern Ohio talked about. The school could raise holy hell, given they have broad (perhaps overbroad) powers when it comes to school disruption. But a cop coming over, that gets to a dangerous spot.

Also, the "yelling fire in a crowded theater" thing is a great metaphor, but the history of the phrase links back to a pretty bad suppression of free speech. In that case, a person opposing the draft in WWI was charged with espionage. It's a kinda ugly situation and a lot of the precedent has been rolled back or changed since. 
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