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MarqHusker

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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #1050 on: April 03, 2020, 01:40:02 AM »
It is a long form version of Inside Edition/Hard Copy/Springer.   The people really do deserve each other.   It is fascinating, but by episode three or four I just lose interest.
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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #1051 on: April 03, 2020, 02:06:26 AM »
Quote from: Mdot21 on April 02, 2020, 06:35:00 PM
Now how did it jump from species to species to species? At one of China’s many DISGUSTING, inhumane, cruel, wildlife wet markets where these WILD animals are stacked in cages all on top of each other vomiting, shitting, pissing, breathing, and bleeding all over each other and slaughtered alive by humans and sold to other humans right then and there.
Someone posted today on Facebook that Chinese wet markets are have reopened. If we could do something now to improve the human condition, and the conditions for animals, by convincing China this practice is too dangerous to the human condition to allow this to continue, I would support it.  

COVID-19 is not the first virus to jump from animal species to humans in China. The 2003 SARS outbreak  originated in China when SARS jumped from bats to humans. It wasn't as virulent as COVID-19. WHO said the SARS infection count was just 8,098 with 774 deaths.
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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #1052 on: April 03, 2020, 05:10:19 AM »
Viruses jumping from animals to humans is common, to the extent it has an actual technical name.

We are animals after all, mammals etc.
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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #1053 on: April 03, 2020, 09:07:00 AM »
Italy:

The numbers out of Italy are a bit misleading unless you understand that WRT COVID-19 Italy has to be looked at by region.  As of yesterday Italy, as a whole, had 1,333 active cases per 1M population.  That is scary.  However, it is nowhere near uniform across the country.  Instead, Norther/Alpine Italy is a complete catastrophe with cases per 1M ranging from about 900 to almost 2,600.  Meanwhile, Southern/Mediterranean Italy has a lower rate of cases per 1M than the US and most of the rest of Europe.  

In Sicily there are 257 cases per 1M population.  

Putting this into perspective:
I live in a City of ~30k within a County of ~180k.  At 2,600 cases per 1M (like Northern Italy) that works out to:

  • 78 cases in my City
  • 468 cases in my County

At 257 cases per 1M (like Sicily) that works out to:

  • ~8 cases in my City
  • ~46 cases in my County


That difference is vast.  I'm pretty sure my City/County have sufficient facilities to deal with 8/46 cases but it goes without saying that we don't have sufficient facilities to deal with 78/468.  
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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #1054 on: April 03, 2020, 09:23:12 AM »
Ohio:
The good news is that Ohio's rate of doubling slowed from every two days in mid-March to every four days now.  The bad news is that doubling every four days is still SCARY fast.  

NY (3,900/1M), NJ (2,500/1M), LA (1,300/1M), MA (1,100/1M), CT (1,000/1M), MI (900/1M), WA (700/1M), DC (600/1M), and CO (600/1M) are the states with the highest percentage infected.  

US Counties with the highest rates of infection per 1M population:

  • 7,041 Nassau County, NY (Long Island, immediately East of Queens)
  • 5,716 NYC, NY* (Not actually a county, the City which includes 5 Counties, one for each Borough)
  • 5,150 Suffolk County, NY (Long Island, East of Nassau County)
  • 2,555 Wayne County, MI (Detroit)
  • 1,519 Oakland County, MI (Troy and Detroit's NW burbs)
  • 1,108 King County, WA (Seattle)
  • 1,057 Philadelphia County, PA (Philly)
  • 1,000 Cook County, IL (Chicago)
  • 982 Middlesex County, MA (Boston)
  • 810 Miami-Dade County, FL (Miami)

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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #1055 on: April 03, 2020, 09:52:09 AM »
We need a spreadsheet, with graphs. I wish I knew someone who was really good at that.
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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #1056 on: April 03, 2020, 10:00:18 AM »
The service area of our local hospital has 108 known cases. I don't have the data on how many are hospitalized.

My town has 24 cases. I suspect that more than a few of these are in nursing homes. The hospital has 500 beds, not including the emergency room (50).
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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #1057 on: April 03, 2020, 10:05:15 AM »
Quote from: Hawkinole on April 03, 2020, 02:06:26 AM
 If we could do something now to improve the human condition, and the conditions for animals, by convincing China this practice is too dangerous to the human condition to allow this to continue, I would support it.
IMO unless powerful members of their Central Committee are affected(or their families) they would have to find a heart or a conscience.That could be a tall order if this was really cooked up in a lab - hope that is not the case
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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #1058 on: April 03, 2020, 10:23:38 AM »
Quote from: FearlessF on April 02, 2020, 06:30:55 PM
I'd rather deal with bats
these anteaters are ugly and very probably foul smelling
Sounds like a Frat Boy date
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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #1059 on: April 03, 2020, 10:23:59 AM »
The little village I lived in on the Navajo Rez got their first known case, and it was an employee at the grocery store.  Reeeally bad news - this place has only the grocery store, a gas station, and a subway.  No other commecial properties at all.
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So they closed the grocery store - the next nearest one is 60 miles away.  Of course their first case is someone working at the only social hub that exists there.  It's going to get bad.
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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #1060 on: April 03, 2020, 10:25:27 AM »
Quote from: FearlessF on April 02, 2020, 08:41:38 PM
gets expensive if you can't spoof your number and have to pay the toll
So you've tried it?
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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #1061 on: April 03, 2020, 10:29:44 AM »
Seems like a rather small village to have a subway.  Is traffic that bad there?
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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #1062 on: April 03, 2020, 10:32:08 AM »
Quote from: OrangeAfroMan on April 03, 2020, 10:23:59 AM
The little village I lived in on the Navajo Rez got their first known case, and it was an employee at the grocery store.  Reeeally bad news - this place has only the grocery store, a gas station, and a subway.  No other commecial properties at all.
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So they closed the grocery store - the next nearest one is 60 miles away.  Of course their first case is someone working at the only social hub that exists there.  It's going to get bad.
Hopefully the communication/liason people are working with the Government.Wonder if this a a case of food boxes/containers being infectced before delivery.As the reservation would be somewhat isolated.Probably disinfect and reopen
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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #1063 on: April 03, 2020, 11:58:36 AM »
Quote from: MrNubbz on April 03, 2020, 10:25:27 AM
So you've tried it?
I've tried to bill for it
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