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utee94

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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #476 on: March 22, 2020, 02:28:08 PM »
Quote from: 847badgerfan on March 22, 2020, 02:26:29 PM
Hopefully we will be past this by then, but yeah, I could see it if it were to happen today.
There are conspiracy theorists asserting this is the end-game of our current president...
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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #477 on: March 22, 2020, 02:30:27 PM »
Quote from: utee94 on March 22, 2020, 02:25:28 PM
If you're suggesting anything further than the current shut-downs already in place in the largest, most population-dense cities in our country, then you are calling for martial law.  It would be the only way to enforce anything further than what's currently happening.

And martial law isn't going to work for any number of reasons. 

You can call it the dangers of living in a free society, but that's where we are right now.
I'm not calling for martial law.

I'm calling for the lock downs in the cities being for everyone

under the current big city lock downs, is a trip to Olive Garden to pickup a single meal allowed??
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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #478 on: March 22, 2020, 02:32:56 PM »
Quote from: FearlessF on March 22, 2020, 02:30:27 PM
I'm not calling for martial law.

I'm calling for the lock downs in the cities being for everyone

under the current big city lock downs, is a trip to Olive Garden to pickup a single meal allowed??

Probably?  And why shouldn't it be?  It's a method of getting food. It can be done in a contactless manner.  Arguably it's less risky than going into a grocery store.

Like I said, just TRY to stop people from having access to avenues for getting food, and see how quickly the violent response comes.




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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #479 on: March 22, 2020, 02:33:10 PM »
Quote from: utee94 on March 22, 2020, 02:28:08 PM
There are conspiracy theorists asserting this is the end-game of our current president...
some crazies reach to politicize EVERYTHING

Donkeys are using the virus to assure Trump isn't re-elected

Elephants are using the virus to assure Trump is re-elected

neither side of the isle knows what the F is going to happen

 
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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #480 on: March 22, 2020, 02:35:39 PM »
Quote from: utee94 on March 22, 2020, 02:32:56 PM
Probably?  And why shouldn't it be?  It's a method of getting food. It can be done in a contactless manner.  Arguably it's less risky than going into a grocery store.

Like I said, just TRY to stop people from having access to avenues for getting food, and see how quickly the violent response comes.





obviously, I've just stated that this seems like an ineffective way to acquire food with more risk of contamination than is needed.
no one need starve if carry out / pickup service is banned
no need for riots and looting
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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #481 on: March 22, 2020, 02:40:17 PM »
Quote from: FearlessF on March 22, 2020, 02:35:39 PM
obviously, I've just stated that this seems like an ineffective way to acquire food with more risk of contamination than is needed.
no one need starve if carry out / pickup service is banned
no need for riots and looting

I can get carry-out pickup much much faster than a trip to the grocery store right now, which now takes several hours currently, in my town.  It also involves standing in a long line of people.  The pickup window at the pizza place requires only minutes and the closest I come to another human is maybe 10 feet.

So tell me which one is riskier?

You're dying on the wrong hill here.  
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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #482 on: March 22, 2020, 02:43:12 PM »
When (not if) a food-handler is infected, everyone picking up their pasta primavera is infected.  That's the argument.
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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #483 on: March 22, 2020, 02:45:01 PM »
Quote from: FearlessF on March 22, 2020, 02:23:57 PM
can you imagine the november election being called off for public safety?
There would be no need for this.  But if you believe Trump wouldn't leave, even if he lost, this would be a convenient outcome for him.  You can do anything in the name of national security, why not public safety?
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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #484 on: March 22, 2020, 02:45:52 PM »
I actually want the media to lie when/if we do flatten the curve and our efforts pay off.  The minute people think "we did it!", they'll go back out into the world and it'll start back up again.
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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #485 on: March 22, 2020, 03:10:19 PM »
https://www.npr.org/sections/coronavirus-live-updates/2020/03/22/819840467/sen-rand-paul-has-tested-positive-for-the-coronavirus?utm_medium=RSS&utm_campaign=nprblogscoronavirusliveupdates
https://www.npr.org/sections/coronavirus-live-updates/2020/03/22/819840467/sen-rand-paul-has-tested-positive-for-the-coronavirus?utm_medium=RSS&utm_campaign=nprblogscoronavirusliveupdates

I presume this thing is simple already out there and we're just trying to slow the spread.  It seems like it is headed into very deep waters.
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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #486 on: March 22, 2020, 03:19:13 PM »
Quote from: utee94 on March 22, 2020, 02:40:17 PM
I can get carry-out pickup much much faster than a trip to the grocery store right now, which now takes several hours currently, in my town.  It also involves standing in a long line of people.  The pickup window at the pizza place requires only minutes and the closest I come to another human is maybe 10 feet.

So tell me which one is riskier?

You're dying on the wrong hill here. 

Dude,

If you're picking up enough pizza at the window to feed your family for two weeks w/o another trip out for food I'll die on the hill
2 trips a day for 2 weeks =more risk than one trip to the market
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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #487 on: March 22, 2020, 03:24:53 PM »
Quote from: OrangeAfroMan on March 22, 2020, 02:43:12 PM
When (not if) a food-handler is infected, everyone picking up their pasta primavera is infected.  That's the argument.
Same thing for a checker at the grocery store.

No difference at all, except the checker is processing far more people per day.

So, there's no argument at all.

Heck, YOU'RE the one that was arguing in favor of food trucks just yesterday.  
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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #488 on: March 22, 2020, 03:28:51 PM »
Quote from: FearlessF on March 22, 2020, 03:19:13 PM
Dude,

If you're picking up enough pizza at the window to feed your family for two weeks w/o another trip out for food I'll die on the hill
2 trips a day for 2 weeks =more risk than one trip to the market

Plenty of people aren't eating out 2x per day.  Also, plenty of people aren't buying 2 weeks worth of  food at the grocery store, many of them because they can't afford it.  Buying one cheap-ass XL pizza at the drive-thru is something they CAN manage, though.


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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #489 on: March 22, 2020, 03:38:39 PM »
food

and especially pizza is much cheaper at the grocery

and most folks that can't afford two weeks of food at the grocery probably wasted their budgets on toilet paper
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