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Topic: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas

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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #280 on: March 19, 2020, 08:33:52 PM »
Can't tell you how many folks I've seen discussing emails or texts they've received that are "Fw: Fw: Fw: Fw: Fw:" messages, as completely factual, and even worse, as personal insider info.


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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #281 on: March 19, 2020, 08:39:37 PM »
You're stating your opinion as fact.  I'm not being dishonest at all.

There are plenty of naive and ignorant people that, even up to this very moment, all over this country, are still choosing to gather in large groups and potentially spreading the virus.
You might not want to call a mathematical certainty as a fact, but I'll consider them synonymous.  
I have no idea what your point is here, besides agreeing with what I've already stated.
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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #282 on: March 19, 2020, 10:00:41 PM »
I believe much more testing would have slowed the spread and saved some lives, but I haven't been convinced that it would have made a huge difference

even if we had unlimited tests, how much would it help?

to qualify for the limited tests you have all the symptoms and most of those tests are coming back negative

if your test comes back positive, you either self isolate and wait it out at home or are hospitalized

if your test comes back negative you wash your hands and practice social distancing (waiting to be infected later), then you'd need another test later.  When?  every 10 days?  every day?

tested or not, you're supposed to avoid spreading the virus.
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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #283 on: March 19, 2020, 10:05:08 PM »
https://www.newsweek.com/coronavirus-mass-testing-experiment-italian-town-covid-19-outbreak-1493183

Testing as many people as possible as early-on as possible leads directly to the spreading slowing and stopping.  It's not complicated. 

Identification = isolation = that case can no longer spread
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Lack of testing = unknown cases spreading = what we have now....continued exponential spread
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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #284 on: March 19, 2020, 10:08:17 PM »
well then, with testing ramping up rapidly, this thing should slow and stop soon
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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #285 on: March 19, 2020, 10:20:40 PM »
Just got off a text string with our local state rep (Tom Morrison R-Palatine).

Rumors of a state lockdown - not true YET. The GOP conference call is at Noon tomorrow, and I will know more after that.

Stay tuned.
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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #286 on: March 19, 2020, 10:43:09 PM »
I got nowhere else to go
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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #287 on: March 20, 2020, 12:30:53 AM »
Public service announcement...

I received an email from a friend today, stating that the entire country would be on lockdown in a few days. Oh boy.

Yesterday I was alerted to the fact (via my local state rep) that Russia, China and Iran (shocking) were infiltrating BookFace with misinformation, to scare our people.

I think this is that. So do our local pols.

Be careful out there, but also be careful on what you read on social media.
This afternoon Iowa's governor said, Iowa is not considering a lock down. Things are changing rapidly. But, Iowa has had no confirmed instance of death. If it gets into a jail or nursing home, there will be a big problem. It's too bad testing is so restrictive it does not include frequent testing of asymptomatic health care workers, jailers and prison guards, and long term care facility workers.

I was visiting with my brother today. He shut down his dental practice Monday except to emergencies, about a day or so ahead of the Illinois dental association telling them dentists needed to do so. He felt reaffirmed. Now the issue becomes defining what constitutes an emergency.

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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #288 on: March 20, 2020, 01:20:33 AM »
well then, with testing ramping up rapidly, this thing should slow and stop soon
It could have
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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #289 on: March 20, 2020, 01:40:11 AM »
Yeah, my internist is closing save, urgent related matters.  Dentist also pulled plug.   My wife is an anesthesiologist at a (outpatient) surgery center, and yes they have called off any elective surgeries entirely.    There's a narrow band of necessary surgeries which they are still performing (broken ankles, etc. patients that would otherwise see increased health risks, or significant burden to Q of life if not performed).

One of the items her colleagues and adjacent hospital peers are concerned about are 'other' medical centers still performing cases, which could create pressure on supplies, which may be needed in the event...of, well you know.    Another interesting note on her world, ventilators.   The big ones, are really huge btw.   Hospitals don't stockpile ventilators by the dozens or thousands, for obvious reasons,  there's never been a reason to have 100s, 1,000s in one or more location in a market.   Furthermore, there's only so many qualified persons who can operate such machines (apparently about 135,000, one wonders how quickly that could be addressed.).  Usual heavy cluster in high population centers, very few in rural areas.  The Feds do actually have a stockpile of ventilators (amounts to about 12,000 or so) in a country that has about 200,000 in operation.   Those of course will be put to use if needed.   What's developing is a war effort type deployment of resources and personnel, really at all levels of medicine/govt.   Regrettably one of my wife's partners tells me the four major manufacturers are overseas. (Europe and Asia).

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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #290 on: March 20, 2020, 08:32:04 AM »
I asked about the symptoms my child in Texas has:

"I now have mild symptoms of occasional fever, sore throat, and chest pain. Very little coughing. Monday through Wednesday wasn't fun but didn't need to go to hospital or anything. I never had any congestion or runny nose. Had a lot of fatigue and body aches but mostly better now. 

Quarantined until March 30. My office is closed until April 6. Having to spend $30/day on food and delivery. Lol. Grocery stores are still messed up down here. "


They had a client visit their office who later tested positive.  Said client was "out and about" and traveling on a plane etc.

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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #291 on: March 20, 2020, 09:30:19 AM »
https://www.newsweek.com/coronavirus-mass-testing-experiment-italian-town-covid-19-outbreak-1493183

Testing as many people as possible as early-on as possible leads directly to the spreading slowing and stopping.  It's not complicated.

Identification = isolation = that case can no longer spread
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Lack of testing = unknown cases spreading = what we have now....continued exponential spread

Accurate testing of people leads to identification, isolation, slowing and stopping of the virus. The first test that Korea was running was only %90 accurate. That lead to a few people who had it getting missed, but lead to a lot of panic and confusion due to an overwhelming number of false positives. 

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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #292 on: March 20, 2020, 09:37:29 AM »
How often do you need to test a person?  Daily?  Weekly?  How many tests is that?  If we try and test folks across the board, it seems herculean to me.

And the person who tests positive has likely been out and about to some extent spreading it before they get tested.

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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #293 on: March 20, 2020, 09:46:34 AM »
If you can, just stay home. Go to the grocery store one time per week, and that's it. Go out for a walk, and that's it.

Yeah, it sucks and I honestly never thought we'd be at this point with this thing. We are at this point.
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