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MrNubbz

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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #840 on: March 31, 2020, 02:41:04 PM »
Quote from: Cincydawg on March 31, 2020, 01:47:23 PM
I was reading a bit more about the virus being present 17 days on a cruise ship, and they measured RNA, not "live" virus.  The virus could have denatured by then and given a positive reading on RNA.  I believe the best data is survival for 1-2 days under ideal conditions on smooth hard surfaces, which is bad enough obviously.  Sunlight will kill it as will any surfactant in water.

I can't find anything reliable about how often it is spread by a sneeze or cough. 
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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #841 on: March 31, 2020, 03:43:24 PM »
We need glasses like these to spot the infected.  Plus this clip is just legendary.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wp_K8prLfso
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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #842 on: March 31, 2020, 03:47:28 PM »
Quote from: OrangeAfroMan on March 31, 2020, 03:43:24 PM
We need glasses like these to spot the infected.  Plus this clip is just legendary.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wp_K8prLfso
Bravo!!
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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #843 on: March 31, 2020, 04:16:02 PM »
Apparently our Governor shut down any more out of staters trying to bed down at privately owned camp grounds.
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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #844 on: March 31, 2020, 04:24:31 PM »
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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #845 on: March 31, 2020, 04:24:43 PM »
Quote from: Kris60 on March 31, 2020, 04:16:02 PM
Apparently our Governor shut down any more out of staters trying to bed down at privately owned camp grounds.
Just out of staters? Or did he shut down the campgrounds entirely? 

If it's just out of staters, that would be a clear violation of interstate commerce and not Constitutional. Though I wonder if it would be upheld under the grounds of a health emergency...
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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #846 on: March 31, 2020, 04:26:47 PM »
Quote from: bwarbiany on March 31, 2020, 04:24:43 PM
Just out of staters? Or did he shut down the campgrounds entirely?

If it's just out of staters, that would be a clear violation of interstate commerce and not Constitutional. Though I wonder if it would be upheld under the grounds of a health emergency...
Yeah.. we can't become separate countries. 
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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #847 on: March 31, 2020, 04:32:33 PM »
Quote from: bwarbiany on March 31, 2020, 04:24:43 PM
Just out of staters? Or did he shut down the campgrounds entirely?

If it's just out of staters, that would be a clear violation of interstate commerce and not Constitutional. Though I wonder if it would be upheld under the grounds of a health emergency...
I'm thinking it's like "national security" - you can do whatever you want in crisis mode.
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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #848 on: March 31, 2020, 05:00:22 PM »
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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #849 on: March 31, 2020, 05:12:53 PM »
Quote from: Kris60 on March 31, 2020, 04:16:02 PM
Apparently our Governor shut down any more out of staters trying to bed down at privately owned camp grounds.
Does that include squatters who've already pitched tents?
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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #850 on: March 31, 2020, 05:16:36 PM »
Quote from: MrNubbz on March 31, 2020, 05:12:53 PM
Does that include squatters who've already pitched tents?
He said if you are already there then you can stay as long as you are self-isolating.  No one new though.
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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #851 on: March 31, 2020, 05:37:59 PM »
Quote from: Kris60 on March 31, 2020, 05:00:22 PM
https://wvva.com/2020/03/31/breaking-gov-justice-orders-halt-to-elective-medical-procedures-closes-private-campgrounds-to-out-of-state-visitors/

Says closed to out of staters.  Idk.  He’s already closed all state park campgrounds.
I'm interested in what the calculus of allowing in-staters would be? I suppose they could be leaving some of the state's urban centers, though those tend to be pretty small. 

I also wonder if it wouldn't hold up in court, but it would need to be challenged, and by the time it was, it would all be over.

The most interesting part of that is the phrase "We remain the highest risk state in the nation." That got my attention. 
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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #852 on: March 31, 2020, 05:38:36 PM »
Quote from: Kris60 on March 31, 2020, 04:16:02 PM
Apparently our Governor shut down any more out of staters trying to bed down at privately owned camp grounds.
This past weekend, the Minnesota DNR shut down all state park and forest campgrounds and revoked all active camping permits. Parks are still open for day use, with appropriate distancing. 
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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #853 on: March 31, 2020, 05:40:46 PM »
Quote from: bayareabadger on March 31, 2020, 05:37:59 PM
I'm interested in what the calculus of allowing in-staters would be? I suppose they could be leaving some of the state's urban centers, though those tend to be pretty small.

I also wonder if it wouldn't hold up in court, but it would need to be challenged, and by the time it was, it would all be over.

The most interesting part of that is the phrase "We remain the highest risk state in the nation." That got my attention.
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