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OrangeAfroMan · « **Reply #6216 on:** July 01, 2020, 02:38:12 PM »

Politicians are crooks.

utee94 · « **Reply #6217 on:** July 01, 2020, 02:46:24 PM »

Quote from: OrangeAfroMan on July 01, 2020, 02:38:12 PM

Politicians are crooks.

OK that's a good one, too.

The NEXT political post, gets whacked. I mean it this time.

847badgerfan · « **Reply #6218 on:** July 01, 2020, 02:53:42 PM »

I think everyone was slow to act, except for the travel ban from China in last January. That was good. I think the slow action had a lot to do with not knowing what we were in for - China covered shit up for a long time, and they still are. The travel ban from Europe was clearly too late, and the massive spring break parties on the Gulf beaches were a fiasco.

Early March, the NY mayor was encouraging people to go on with their lives. End of February the House speaker was urging people to party in SF's Chinatown. Most governors all across the country had their heads up their asses.

Then, the shit it the fan in late March and everyone is pointing fingers all of a sudden. That is when things turned partisan, and THAT, is unfortunate.

This is like a war. I wish we could all come together and do what is right for one another.

We must declare our Independence Day on this virus and knock it out.

In my mind, this is NOT a political post. It's non-partisan. But, if it must be deleted, so be it. I won't be offended one iota.

Cincydawg · « **Reply #6219 on:** July 01, 2020, 03:18:47 PM »

I was trying to think up a blatantly political post, but I couldn't, sorry.

We'll get through this eventually. The wife wanted to stop by a mall today, I was amazed how many people were there midday, most wearing masks. This was an average suburban mall, nothing special. Crowded, it is next to Costco, but that wasn't why it's crowded. Costco crowd was manageable.

MrNubbz · « **Reply #6220 on:** July 01, 2020, 03:25:04 PM »

Quote from: 847badgerfan on July 01, 2020, 09:06:29 AM

You didn't need to tell us what we already knew. We don't need to be told by you.

Yes, WE KNOW. Everyone here wears masks. Not everyone here is on a government job and can sit home. Reopening had to happen.

Testify Badge Testify I was just going to post.
"And we told you not every one can suck on the governments tits while posting on messaged boards."

Cincydawg · « **Reply #6221 on:** July 01, 2020, 03:50:42 PM »

The 781,000 total deaths in the United States in the three months through May 30 were about 122,300, or nearly 19% higher, than what would normally be expected, according to the researchers. Of the 122,300 excess deaths, 95,235 were attributed to Covid-19, they said. Most of the rest of the excess deaths, researchers said, were likely related to or directly caused by the coronavirus.

https://www.cnbc.com/2020/07/01/official-us-coronavirus-death-toll-is-a-substantial-undercount-of-actual-tally-new-yale-study-finds.html

I still see folks arguing that "we" are OVER counting the death toll because hospitals get paid more to count any death as COVID.

I also see folks posting on FB why they will refuse to wear a mask or get vaccinated.

Cincydawg · « **Reply #6222 on:** July 01, 2020, 03:51:19 PM »

https://www.sciencenews.org/article/covid-19-coronavirus-why-wearing-masks-controversial?fbclid=IwAR2UluMdSz7VymhbPNSNY2rLBGJCZeTYaZuiDxuEeBKrW6sUK6ox9Wzv33I

That explains the reasoning behind the CDC’s recommendation that everyone wear a mask in public: The covering may lessen the risk of mask wearers who don’t know they’re infected from passing the virus to someone else.

“We believe now that we are learning more about this novel virus that there is transmission from asymptomatic individuals,” Quigley says. Studies have determined that people can transmit the virus for a couple of days before symptoms start, and that some people who never develop symptoms can be contagious (SN: 6/9/20).

betarhoalphadelta · « **Reply #6223 on:** July 01, 2020, 03:58:32 PM »

Orange County announced closure of bars which don't serve food, and about an hour later Newsom announced a closure of bars and indoor dining affecting 19 California counties, including Orange.

Apparently Newsom reminded people that a big source of transmission is family gatherings with people outside one's household. Good that someone said it.

Cincydawg · « **Reply #6224 on:** July 01, 2020, 04:09:59 PM »

Quote from: bwarbiany on July 01, 2020, 03:58:32 PM

Apparently Newsom reminded people that a big source of transmission is family gatherings with people outside one's household. Good that someone said it.

It is good that he said it, but I fear the advice will not be heeded by those who didn't understand the need to this point.

betarhoalphadelta · « **Reply #6225 on:** July 01, 2020, 04:13:01 PM »

Quote from: Cincydawg on July 01, 2020, 04:09:59 PM

It is good that he said it, but I fear the advice will not be heeded by those who didn't understand the need to this point.

Oh, don't get me wrong. I'm not optimist.

I don't believe for a second that anyone will listen. But at least he said it.

Here was the excerpt I read...

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What would the Fourth of July be without families getting together to celebrate their freedom on Independence Day with a back-yard barbecue?
Gov. Gavin Newsom says this would be a great year to find out.
“One of the areas of biggest concern as it relates to the spread of COVID-19 in this state remains family gatherings,” Newsom said Tuesday, promising to deliver more guidance Wednesday on this weekend’s backyard barbecues.
Of the 19 counties on California’s watch list for worrisome COVID-19 trends, family gatherings were cited as factors for outbreaks in Glenn, Sacramento, Solano and Stanislaus, while gatherings generally were listed among causes in Ventura, Santa Barbara, San Joaquin, San Bernardino and Orange. Mother’s Day and Memorial Day gatherings have already been blamed for some of the outbreaks.
Newsom paints a vivid picture of how social distancing can go by the wayside at your typical Fourth of July family barbecue.
Everyone “may walk into that barbecue with masks on. They put the cooler down. Immediately the mask comes off. They have a glass of water and all of a sudden nieces and nephews start congregating around, and then they’re jumping on top of Uncle Joe, and then Uncle Joe is putting them back to Aunt Jane,” Newsom said.
“And all of a sudden here comes Uncle Bob two hours late, he gives everyone a hug, and they’re — ‘Hey Uncle Bob, where’s the mask?’ — and Uncle Bob is ‘I don’t believe in that,’ so the whole thing starts to take shape and you start to see the kind of spread that is the top concern that our health officers have,” he said.

Cincydawg · « **Reply #6226 on:** July 01, 2020, 04:18:12 PM »

Some will heed I think, not enough I fear.

Cincydawg · « **Reply #6227 on:** July 01, 2020, 04:37:51 PM »

https://www.nature.com/articles/d41586-020-01950-0?fbclid=IwAR2abRfb6mcO5mv8VA8-aD0fkInecEz4epITNfEpa6GaW6TWqj4lLFva2_k

utee94 · « **Reply #6228 on:** July 01, 2020, 05:41:40 PM »

Some articles and studies have been trickling out recently pointing to possible higher immunity due to T-cell response. I don't believe any of it is peer reviewed or confirmed yet, but it's a start...

https://news.ki.se/immunity-to-covid-19-is-probably-higher-than-tests-have-shown

https://www.researchsquare.com/article/rs-35331/v1

And an older article from back in May, this might be the first one I ever saw that mentioned it:

https://www.sciencemag.org/news/2020/05/t-cells-found-covid-19-patients-bode-well-long-term-immunity

utee94 · « **Reply #6229 on:** July 01, 2020, 06:00:23 PM »

And we've had our first delete.

Please no political bullshit on this thread, it's been going pretty well.

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