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Topic: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas

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utee94

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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #6244 on: July 02, 2020, 09:51:42 AM »
all is calm at 320's place orange man

it may not disappear but we can and will whip it to its knees

one thing everone needs to understand that while we need to reduce positives as much as possible,
positives does not equal death


It's not the Bubonic Plague that's for sure.

It has to be kept out of the nursing homes and LTC facilities.  Absolutely has to. 

Everything else, is going to run its course, and there's not much we can do to stop it.  All we can do is slow it and try to avoid overwhelming the hospitals.

I'm hopeful an effective vaccine can be found, but I'm not planning on it, and I'm telling my elected officials that they can't plan on it, either.  Absolutely zero public health or public policy decisions can be made on the assumption we will ever have an effective vaccine.

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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #6245 on: July 02, 2020, 10:55:25 AM »
so, I'm hearing that many more folks are wearing masks

if masks are effective, the curve should begin to flatten again
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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #6246 on: July 02, 2020, 11:11:45 AM »
so, I'm hearing that many more folks are wearing masks

if masks are effective, the curve should begin to flatten again
Not as long as people are doing this...

https://abcnews.go.com/US/alabama-students-throwing-covid-parties-infected-officials/story?id=71552514

To be perfectly honest, this story completely pegs my BS detector to the red. I think someone either invented this story as a way to freak out the authorities or it's an urban legend where people have "heard about" these parties that don't exist but the rumor makes people think they're all over the place. Perhaps there was one, once, and the legend grew but the incidence of these parties didn't.

But I couldn't come across this and not mention it here...

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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #6247 on: July 02, 2020, 11:25:32 AM »
It could be that students are throwing parties and someone called them COVID parties as a kind of joke.

One frat at UNC would hold Pearl Harbor Day parties.  I stopped once to ask them why and they didn't know what Pearl Harbor was about. 

That day didn't live in infamy everywhere.



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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #6248 on: July 02, 2020, 11:28:59 AM »
It could be that students are throwing parties and someone called them COVID parties as a kind of joke.

One frat at UNC would hold Pearl Harbor Day parties.  I stopped once to ask them why and they didn't know what Pearl Harbor was about.

That day didn't live in infamy everywhere.



Yeah, students throw all sorts of irreverent and/or inappropriately themed parties, without intentionally trying to get sick.

But they also do really stupid shit, so it wouldn't surprise me at all if they're actually doing this.  Heck, there were actually kids that were licking toilets attempting to get COVID, and posting it on social media.

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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #6249 on: July 02, 2020, 11:37:20 AM »
Yup, my guess is students wanted to have parties and when asked about COVID and were they worried, they dropped the "I am too young to die early" card and lampooned it.

And they could actually BE COVID parties and they may well regret their hilarity.

Cytokine explosions can happen.

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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #6250 on: July 02, 2020, 11:53:44 AM »
Oh yeah, for sure.  I'd expect that, intentional or not, ANY large gathering of 18-22 year olds, at this point, would effectively be a COVID party.  It's out there, they're not taking it seriously, and they're spreading it rapidly.


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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #6251 on: July 02, 2020, 11:56:51 AM »
I have mentioned that my kid living in Texas and how is in excellent shape said it was NO FUN AT ALL.

Doing fine now, nothing lingering.

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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #6252 on: July 02, 2020, 11:57:37 AM »
I wonder how soon one of us here contracts it.  I'm not wishing that on anyone obviously, and I'd guess we are pretty careful relatively.

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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #6253 on: July 02, 2020, 12:02:25 PM »
https://www.cnbc.com/2020/07/02/dr-scott-gottlieb-says-he-thinks-the-worst-of-the-us-coronavirus-epidemic-will-be-over-by-january.html

“This will be over by January one way or the other,” he said on “Squawk Box.” “Either we’ll get to a vaccine or we’ll just have spread enough it’s just going to stop spreading efficiently, so we have a short period of time to get through. We should do everything we can to preserve what we want of our way of life over that time period to just get through it.”

Policy makers are betting on an effective vaccine or that enough of the population will recover from the virus and achieve so-called herd immunity to curb the outbreak. However, there’s still no clear evidence that antibodies give people any protection against being reinfected.


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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #6254 on: July 02, 2020, 12:26:22 PM »
I wonder how soon one of us here contracts it.  I'm not wishing that on anyone obviously, and I'd guess we are pretty careful relatively.
One of my wife's doctors shares an office at the hospital (not the same workplace as my wife's office--it's the doctor's other job) and her office mate got it bad. Amazingly, my wife's doctor seems to have missed it. Luckily there was no interaction between my wife and that doctor since the other doctor tested positive, and we should be out of the woods on that one.

Yesterday we learned that the other doctor in the office is now symptomatic, as is her husband (a NICU doctor in Long Beach). That doctor was in the office on Tuesday, and although there was no *close* contact between her and my wife, there was interaction. 

So we're a little nervous right now. 

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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #6255 on: July 02, 2020, 12:44:49 PM »


To be perfectly honest, this story completely pegs my BS detector to the red. I think someone either invented this story as a way to freak out the authorities or it's an urban legend where people have "heard about" these parties that don't exist but the rumor makes people think they're all over the place. Perhaps there was one, once, and the legend grew but the incidence of these parties didn't.

But I couldn't come across this and not mention it here...
The story might be urban legend, but the idea behind it isn't. A major outbreak in Minnesota was traced back to four bars in which the place was packed and no one was wearing masks. Even the Minnesota Licensed Beverage Association, the state's bar trade group, told their membership to follow the state's rules or else
follow the state's rules or else. Based on their wording in the press release, this isn't a popular stance among bar owners.


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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #6256 on: July 02, 2020, 01:17:09 PM »
My sister had it and so did her husband. Both tested positive. They are both 18-35, very healthy and they both work out all the time. Zero underlying conditions. He had literally nothing, while she had a fever for about 4 days and had very minor pneumonia, she was 100% better in about a week. 

Which again brings me back to my original point- this thing is not that deadly to the young or the healthy. Do not need to lockdown and tank the economy into a world depression because of it. 

Ask that the old, the morbidly obese, diabetic, sick, and immune compromised to take precautions and stay isolated if they must. Ask people to wear masks in large Public gatherings, and ask people to wash their hands and practice proper hygiene. Why is this so hard?

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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #6257 on: July 02, 2020, 01:21:59 PM »
Another thing that really chaps my ass about the media is how they report this. I read an article where the headline was young healthy 17 year old dies of COVID. 

You click the link to actually read the article, the fucking kid was almost 400 pounds and diabetic. How in the hell is that “young and healthy”. It’s just young. 

This crazy media actually tries to make people believe that being morbidly obese is A-OK, normal, and dandy. It’s not.

You had people in the media and on social media attacking the singer Adele for losing like 100 pounds and posting pics of her new body. Instead of praising her and saying wow she looks great and really put in the effort to lose weight and become healthy- they were slamming her. Makes no sense. At all.  

 

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