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bayareabadger

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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #16016 on: October 21, 2021, 11:09:24 AM »
Quote from: 847badgerfan on October 21, 2021, 10:12:34 AM
When was there bad weather in Florida?
Hurricanes?
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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #16017 on: October 21, 2021, 11:17:12 AM »
Quote from: Honestbuckeye on October 21, 2021, 10:43:11 AM
Well they lost $300mm- conservatively. Long-term loss is probably far greater.

it has nothing to do with whether or not you or anyone feel sorry for them. Their shareholders and Board of Directors will not stand for revenue losses of that size which are extremely significant. They had to fix the problem and so they did. They changed their position on the vaccine mandate.

and coincidentally and suddenly all the weather problems that only they were being impacted by, cleared up. 😂😂
For clarity, most of that $300 million dip in expected revenue has nothing to do with a vaccine mandate. Unless I'm misreading it.

(That initially read semi-combative and it didn't have to)
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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #16018 on: October 21, 2021, 11:29:21 AM »
Quote from: bayareabadger on October 21, 2021, 11:09:24 AM
Hurricanes?
Haven't seen one here since early July.
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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #16019 on: October 21, 2021, 12:30:53 PM »
Quote from: Cincydawg on October 21, 2021, 09:30:59 AM
These plastic shields most retail places have put up, are they effective?  It seems thay should be, at least somewhat, if breathing spreads the virus.


Based on how much spit residue was on the ones at Maplewood Costco at the end of the evening, very effective.
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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #16020 on: October 21, 2021, 12:38:37 PM »
Quote from: bayareabadger on October 21, 2021, 11:17:12 AM
For clarity, most of that $300 million dip in expected revenue has nothing to do with a vaccine mandate. Unless I'm misreading it.

(That initially read semi-combative and it didn't have to)
Incorrect. The pilots and staff were approaching the vaccine or quit or be fired date rapidly and decided to make a statement by taking all of their unused vacation simultaneously.  That’s not what was said publicly because as a show of good faith they allowed the corporate press release to say it was related to weather, which prevents them from having to pay client refunds.

That was openly stated by numerous Southwest employees. Due to the thousands of canceled flights that was revenue that was lost. Did you think it was a coincidence that they changed their position on the vaccine mandates and all the flights started going smoothly? 
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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #16021 on: October 21, 2021, 12:40:31 PM »
Quote from: OrangeAfroMan on October 21, 2021, 08:28:21 AM
businesses > lives
Basic logical fallacy, false dichotomy.
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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #16022 on: October 21, 2021, 12:47:37 PM »
Quote from: 847badgerfan on October 21, 2021, 11:29:21 AM
Haven't seen one here since early July.
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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #16023 on: October 21, 2021, 12:49:43 PM »
I believe SW was pretty much due to staff resistance to the vaccine mandate (not the vaccine itself).  They did a save face PR announcement blaming weather and staffing shortages when it was really the latter.  And then they reversed the mandate.

Report: Southwest Reverses, to Retain Employees Seeking Vaccine Exemption | Business Travel News

No Evidence Southwest Airlines Reversed Course on Worker Vax Mandate | Snopes.com

The Snopes summary is rather confusing and parses words too much for me.
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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #16024 on: October 21, 2021, 12:52:48 PM »
Quote from: FearlessF on October 21, 2021, 10:17:45 AM
The airline reported a third-quarter profit of $446 million on Thursday thanks to a boost from federal aid and voluntary leaves of absence by employees, but it said staff shortages led to operational problems that hurt its bottom line.

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I feel bad for them.  How will they ever go on???
Fly Fearless Airlines a fine assortment/collection of Iowa crop dusters,complete with Vietman era surplus chutes and ejection seats.CD can be the Chief Pilot
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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #16025 on: October 21, 2021, 01:09:17 PM »
Quote from: bayareabadger on October 21, 2021, 10:48:39 AM
I wonder how much it's actually enforced. By that, I mean, if the business halfheartedly asks and consumers halfheartedly do it, probably becomes a big whatever.

Of course, the flip side is once you put a law in place, someone somewhere is gonna take the brunt of it, so I can buy that. (I wear a mask into the grocery store and while walking into restaurants because I have no desire to talk to someone who might ask about it. I kinda like having a mask for public restrooms. That's an upshot)
A law?

I guess I missed the bill, and the subsequent voting in the two chambers.
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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #16026 on: October 21, 2021, 01:09:35 PM »
Well, I have survived something few other pilots have (engine out landing with no power in a field).

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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #16027 on: October 21, 2021, 01:10:59 PM »
Passing laws and regulations that cannot be enforced rationally makes no sense to me.

I don't see how OSHA can possibly check up on the vaccine mandate.  I think most smaller companies will just ask and record responses.
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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #16028 on: October 21, 2021, 01:36:26 PM »
Quote from: Cincydawg on October 21, 2021, 09:30:59 AM
These plastic shields most retail places have put up, are they effective?  It seems thay should be, at least somewhat, if breathing spreads the virus.


spit residue is one thing or droplets..

but, if mere breathing spreads the virus, plastic shields and paper/cloth masks do very little

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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #16029 on: October 21, 2021, 02:48:08 PM »
Quote from: 847badgerfan on October 21, 2021, 01:09:17 PM
A law?

I guess I missed the bill, and the subsequent voting in the two chambers.
Badge, you may not like it, but Congress passes laws granting rulemaking authority to agencies. Those rules, while never voted on by Congress directly, carry the force of law. Acting as if you don't understand this is beneath you. 

As for the LA law calling for proof of vaccine for entry into public places, I believe that was formally voted upon by the appropriate county supervisors. It wasn't just declared by the board of health.
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