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Mdot21

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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #13832 on: May 23, 2021, 11:45:28 AM »
best comment: 

"Yeah, but your scientists were so preoccupied with whether or not they could, they didn't stop to think if they should." - Jeff Goldblum






https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d5fe7KEkwQM

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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #13833 on: May 23, 2021, 01:09:39 PM »
Quote from: 847badgerfan on May 23, 2021, 10:49:31 AM
So...

Fauci 'not convinced' COVID-19 developed naturally | Fox News
Fauci 'not convinced' COVID-19 developed naturally | Fox News


I'm not convinced either.

Not even from the very beginning.
Which way is the wind blowing?

Just listen to Dr Fauci to find out

Might change tomorrow
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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #13834 on: May 23, 2021, 05:33:36 PM »
I'm certainly not "convinced" of anything regarding it's origins.  I doubt we ever will be.

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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #13835 on: May 23, 2021, 07:17:09 PM »
Quote from: Cincydawg on May 23, 2021, 05:33:36 PM
I'm certainly not "convinced" of anything regarding it's origins.  I doubt we ever will be.
Read more on it. It almost certainly came from a lab. 
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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #13836 on: May 23, 2021, 07:22:22 PM »
From what I've read there is absolutely nothing about it that is particularly suspicious or any sign of something created or weaponized. It is a pretty run of the mill virus. But it certainly could have been accidentally released from a lab - I didn't realize how common that actually was until this pandemic.
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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #13837 on: May 24, 2021, 07:46:04 AM »
Quote from: MaximumSam on May 23, 2021, 07:22:22 PM
From what I've read there is absolutely nothing about it that is particularly suspicious or any sign of something created or weaponized. It is a pretty run of the mill virus. But it certainly could have been accidentally released from a lab - I didn't realize how common that actually was until this pandemic.
I don't know about that either.

Things would be a lot different in the world today had it not been for the Covid.
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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #13838 on: May 24, 2021, 09:10:58 AM »
Quote from: MaximumSam on May 23, 2021, 07:22:22 PM
From what I've read there is absolutely nothing about it that is particularly suspicious or any sign of something created or weaponized. It is a pretty run of the mill virus. But it certainly could have been accidentally released from a lab - I didn't realize how common that actually was until this pandemic.
No one said created. You and others who think like this need to get that word "created" out of your heads. They don't "create" viruses in these labs while doing this gain of function research. They take naturally occurring viruses- that DO NOT and CANNOT infect human beings- and they play evolutionary tricks with said virus- and turbocharge their evolution and play god in a lab setting and push and pull these viruses, manipulate them & expose them to human cells & human tissues- and these viruses mutate rapidly and evolve to infect human cells.

Watch those videos I linked on the previous page. And also- the former head of the CDC- who is a trained virologist and has access to every shred of classified top secret intelligence there is on this topic- says this thing came from a lab leak. He's not speaking out of his ass. He's seen intelligence that the rest of us haven't.

Faucci is lying out of his ass- and has been all over the map since day one- all in order to cover his own ass. Faucci IS gain of function research. He's the single most senior/important figure in that entire field in the entire world. And he's likely been trying to keep the lid on this to save his own skin.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IqhKlkkc2Eo

As far as weaponizing the virus goes- the Chinese gov't sure did A HELL of a lot to make this thing far worse than it ever should've been.

Read this: https://www.southampton.ac.uk/news/2020/03/covid-19-china.page

Watch this:


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rwroTpZ2Np8
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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #13839 on: May 24, 2021, 09:35:50 AM »
Quote from: Mdot21 on May 24, 2021, 09:10:58 AM
They take naturally occurring viruses- that DO NOT and CANNOT infect human beings- and they play evolutionary tricks with said virus- and turbocharge their evolution and play god in a lab setting and push and pull these viruses, manipulate them & expose them to human cells & human tissues- and these viruses mutate rapidly and evolve to infect human cells.
So, they play tricks and push and pull and manipulate, to change something that occurs in nature, to something that doesn't occur in nature?

Sounds like a lab creation to me.


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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #13840 on: May 24, 2021, 10:32:36 AM »
create implies they make these things from scratch or engineer them ground up to do things they want them to do. they don’t. They play with evolution in a lab setting and these viruses evolve in ways they can’t predict. They learn new tricks. Hence the term - gain of function. 
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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #13841 on: May 24, 2021, 10:35:57 AM »
Quote from: Mdot21 on May 24, 2021, 09:10:58 AM
No one said created. You and others who think like this need to get that word "created" out of your heads. They don't "create" viruses in these labs while doing this gain of function research. They take naturally occurring viruses- that DO NOT and CANNOT infect human beings- and they play evolutionary tricks with said virus- and turbocharge their evolution and play god in a lab setting and push and pull these viruses, manipulate them & expose them to human cells & human tissues- and these viruses mutate rapidly and evolve to infect human cells.

But can't someone say that an omelet or a cake is "created" by playing god with the ingredients and playing tricks with stove/oven heat?

With modern messaging tied to character limits on social media, to bite size talking points, and to headlines, what you just described above can be summarized within headlines as "creating" in the sense of manipulating something into existence, as the Covid virus is discussed.

Does anybody else believe how fortunate we as the general public are to indisputably know where Covid came from (Wuhan, China)? Once Covid began making news in early 2020, China was already organizing the message that other nations and pharmaceuticals were to blame. Had it not been so obvious or the facts were fuzzier from the start, many have wondered whether rather than arguing whether Covid came from a lab, our medias might be tied to debating whether Covid even emerged from China at all, if their state medias had their way.
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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #13842 on: May 24, 2021, 11:20:01 AM »
Quote from: 847badgerfan on May 24, 2021, 07:46:04 AM
I don't know about that either.

Things would be a lot different in the world today had it not been for the Covid.
THIS,Sam mispoke "run of the mill" doesn't shut down world economies or mess with human immune systems to that length
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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #13843 on: May 24, 2021, 12:55:14 PM »
Quote from: MrNubbz on May 24, 2021, 11:20:01 AM
THIS,Sam mispoke "run of the mill" doesn't shut down world economies or mess with human immune systems to that length
What I mean is - many viruses in circulation today started out causing a pandemic. They now cause mild flus or colds, due the wonders of evolution and our immune system. So by "run of the mill" I mean there isn't anything particularly novel about this virus compared to other pandemics.
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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #13844 on: May 24, 2021, 01:05:58 PM »
I think this is anything BUT "run of the mill".

Nothing else in MY life had such a broad impact on behaviors and actions for nearly a year, and still is having impact.  That isn't "run of the mill", it's singular.  

And the virus itself appears to be far more contagious than is "typical".  
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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #13845 on: May 24, 2021, 01:25:26 PM »
Quote from: Cincydawg on May 24, 2021, 01:05:58 PM
I think this is anything BUT "run of the mill".

Nothing else in MY life had such a broad impact on behaviors and actions for nearly a year, and still is having impact.  That isn't "run of the mill", it's singular. 

And the virus itself appears to be far more contagious than is "typical". 
yep

fast spreading but no symptoms right away 

a recipe for very dangerous
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