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Topic: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas

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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #10514 on: November 12, 2020, 09:59:51 AM »
time to break out the shark water
We're gonna have to break out a double batch next year, assuming our livers can handle it.

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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #10515 on: November 12, 2020, 11:34:22 AM »
that's a large assumption
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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #10516 on: November 12, 2020, 11:37:02 AM »
In cities worldwide, coronavirus outbreaks have been linked to restaurants, cafes and gyms. Now, a new model using mobile-phone data to map people’s movements suggests that these venues could account for most COVID-19 infections in US cities.

The model, published in Nature today, also reveals how reducing occupancy in venues can significantly cut the number of infections.

The model “has concrete pointers as to what may be cost-effective measures to contain the spread of the disease, while at the same time, limiting the damage to the economy”, says Thiemo Fetzer, an economist at the University of Warwick in Coventry. “This is the policy sweet spot.”


https://www.nature.com/articles/d41586-020-03140-4

The mobility data also suggest why people from poorer neighbourhoods are more likely to get COVID-19: because they are less able to work from home, and the stores they visit for essential supplies are often more crowded than in other areas. The average grocery store in poorer neighbourhoods had 59% more hourly visitors per square foot, and visitors stayed on average 17% longer than at stores outside those areas. Leskovec says that people living in these areas probably have limited options to visit less crowded stores, and as a result, a shopping trip is twice as risky as it is for someone from a wealthier area.

But Christopher Dye, an epidemiologist at the University of Oxford, says these mobility patterns need to be validated with real-world data. “It is an epidemiological hypothesis that remains to be tested. But it is a hypothesis that is well worth testing,” he says.
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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #10517 on: November 12, 2020, 12:23:29 PM »
My anecdotal, real-world data agree with the poverty thing, but it's not even grocery stores, it's mini-marts.  They don't have a car, they walk to the gas station and spend $15 on unhealthy food/drink that would have cost them $9 at a proper grocery store.  The mini-mart is tiny and has tons of people in-and-out, 24 hours a day.  Less area = lots of hands touching more of what's there.  So busy, there's a line, so they're in there long enough to catch it.

Now if they'd only provide boiled peanuts here, I could join in the fun!
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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #10518 on: November 12, 2020, 01:24:15 PM »
My anecdotal, real-world data agree with the poverty thing, but it's not even grocery stores, it's mini-marts.  They don't have a car, they walk to the gas station and spend $15 on unhealthy food/drink that would have cost them $9 at a proper grocery store.  The mini-mart is tiny and has tons of people in-and-out, 24 hours a day.  Less area = lots of hands touching more of what's there.  So busy, there's a line, so they're in there long enough to catch it.

Now if they'd only provide boiled peanuts here, I could join in the fun!
My observation aligns to this. 

Including the boiled peanuts!

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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #10519 on: November 12, 2020, 01:27:09 PM »
It's expensive to be poor, and that is real.

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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #10520 on: November 12, 2020, 01:27:36 PM »
Reality often bites, but pretending it isn't reality bites worse.

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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #10521 on: November 12, 2020, 02:02:39 PM »
Nothing but bad news from today's batch of numbers in MN.


https://twitter.com/dhmontgomery/status/1326935089951907841?s=20


15% positivity, new records in all categories.

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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #10522 on: November 12, 2020, 02:03:52 PM »
My anecdotal, real-world data agree with the poverty thing, but it's not even grocery stores, it's mini-marts.  They don't have a car, they walk to the gas station and spend $15 on unhealthy food/drink that would have cost them $9 at a proper grocery store.  The mini-mart is tiny and has tons of people in-and-out, 24 hours a day.  Less area = lots of hands touching more of what's there.  So busy, there's a line, so they're in there long enough to catch it.

Now if they'd only provide boiled peanuts here, I could join in the fun!
If we are going anecdotal. I have been going to the circle k around the corner from my job every morning to get a pop.  I don't wear a mask, it can be crowded or it could be empty. So far, I have not caught nor have I spread COVID. I was tested 2 weeks ago for travel and it was negative

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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #10523 on: November 12, 2020, 02:04:57 PM »
It looks to me as if Europe is HERE, and now.

https://www.cnbc.com/2020/11/12/average-covid-cases-and-hospitalizations-rise-in-nearly-every-state-across-us.html

It’s not just cases that are rising. The seven-day average of hospitalized Covid-19 patients is up by at least 5% in 46 states, according to data from the COVID Tracking Project, which is run by journalists at The Atlantic. Across the country, there are more than 65,300 people currently hospitalized with Covid-19, more than at any other point in the pandemic.

“We’re piercing the previous records, and ICU admissions are going up quickly, as well, with 12,000 people in the ICUs,” former Food and Drug Administration Commissioner Dr. Scott Gottlieb said Thursday on “Squawk Box.” “Hospitalizations right now are rising by about 1,600 people a day, but that’s going to continue to increase, as well.”


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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #10524 on: November 12, 2020, 02:08:43 PM »
Yeah, Austin metro had been holding hospitalizations low despite increasing case numbers, but now the trend is going the wrong way.

I'm supposed to go to our friend's daughter's wedding next weekend, it's an outdoor venue but it's also going to be almost entirely people I don't know.  I'm feeling less comfortable about this now, than I was a couple months ago.


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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #10525 on: November 12, 2020, 02:29:51 PM »
I attended a wedding reception a few weeks ago...

showed up late, ate the meal, had a couple beers and left early

tried not to get too close to anyone
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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #10526 on: November 12, 2020, 02:43:59 PM »
Nothing but bad news from today's batch of numbers in MN.


https://twitter.com/dhmontgomery/status/1326935089951907841?s=20


15% positivity, new records in all categories.
this with a majority, especially in the cities, wearing masks
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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #10527 on: November 12, 2020, 02:48:03 PM »
Masks are an imperfect and partial "solution".

 

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