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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #10318 on: November 05, 2020, 12:17:07 PM »
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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #10319 on: November 05, 2020, 12:18:09 PM »
Quote from: bwarbiany on November 05, 2020, 11:16:14 AM
Good article. And yeah, Sweden tends to be used by "both sides":

Counterpoint: Sweden actually has done quite a bit, has had clear messaging from the government, has a very high-trust society, and somewhat unique demographics. The U.S. wouldn't know "high-trust society" if it hit us going 90mph down the highway.

And despite the claim they've done "nothing", their economy was hit extremely hard and people have had to dramatically change their behavior, which quite frankly is what the anti-lockdowners are arguing they shouldn't have to do. Shhh, this ruins the narrative.

And they're not aiming for herd immunity, they're aiming for an appropriate balance between lockdown and commerce that allows people to still live while doing everything they can to contain spread where it occurs (robust testing and contact tracing).  This is far too prudent for the U.S. 

And on fatigue....I understand frivolous fatigue about BS that doesn't matter.  I reeeeeally don't understand fatigue about something that's killing X% of people.  I'd probably have that fatigue if I was 20 years old or something, but no, I'm not getting fatigue while my restrained actions and lifestyle are keeping me safe.  
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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #10320 on: November 05, 2020, 12:22:23 PM »

And we're all rested and redeemed knowing this
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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #10321 on: November 05, 2020, 02:01:06 PM »
We are going about our business, as careful as we can.

Going out to eat tonight. 

6200 new Florida cases today. 100K tests. Almost 1500 in Dade, 800 in Broward, 450 in Palm Beach.

6.2% positive. It's still out there. 
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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #10322 on: November 05, 2020, 02:05:17 PM »
I literally have not eaten at a restaurant/bar/pub since mid March. Takeout/delivery and a lot more cooking at home for me.
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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #10323 on: November 05, 2020, 02:38:31 PM »
Things are pretty darn safe to eat out now, especially outside. Many restaurants have gone to great lengths and expense to stay open., including air handlers, shields, PPE, etc., so people can eat inside.

There is no proof that indoor dining has led to any big spread. Indoor bars, however, well, that's for kiddies and that's who is spreading the most.

It's a balance.
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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #10324 on: November 05, 2020, 02:40:54 PM »
A lot of risks in life kill X% of the people each year, and it's human nature to ignore or minimize those risks, because folks get TIRED (fatigued) of being lectured all the time.  They can hole up for a while and then they decide they want to be out and about because this thing isn't killing very many young people.

And humans also confuse anecdotes with statistics.  "I don't know anyone who got it, so it's safe to party hearty."
 
We all rationalize our behaviors, it's not unique somehow to Americans.  The Europeans are protesting against the lockdown in numbers, and protesting itself is likely to spread this.

Our neighbor the physicist is just back from Turkey and doing a two week self quarantine voluntarily.  We'll be taking him dinner and groceries from time to time as we did last time.  Of course, he's pretty bright, Harvard PhD in theoretical physics and all that.  

We have 35,000 or so every year die in auto accidents.  It's accepted as part of life, folks do what they can to reduce the figure, and it has been cut almost in half.
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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #10325 on: November 05, 2020, 03:35:28 PM »
Currently doing a virtual conference. One presentation that is up now is the impact of COVID and this spring's stay-at-home orders. Should be interesting.
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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #10326 on: November 05, 2020, 03:37:23 PM »
Quote from: MrNubbz on November 05, 2020, 12:22:23 PM
And we're all rested and redeemed knowing this
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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #10327 on: November 05, 2020, 03:42:05 PM »
Quote from: Cincydawg on November 05, 2020, 02:40:54 PM

We have 35,000 or so every year die in auto accidents.  It's accepted as part of life, folks do what they can to reduce the figure, and it has been cut almost in half.
I agree with much of your post, but this isn't a good citation.
A - cars were a paradigm shift in travel - they changed everything and added a massive plus when it came to speed/efficiency....a virus doesn't provide any good like that
B - eventually, it became untenable to live without a car (depending on where you live - so save the NYC or tiny town examples)......the only people (99%+) who don't have a car can't afford one

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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #10328 on: November 05, 2020, 03:51:16 PM »
No analogy is perfect, but "we" collectively make choices individually (often) that may not be in our individual best interest.

Many of us run up credit card debt, or fail to save for retirement, or allow ourselves to become obese diabetic walking time bombs.

COVID fatigue I think is understandable even if logically it should not be how we view it.

It's like how George Best spent his fortune.
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« Reply #10329 on: November 05, 2020, 04:13:56 PM »
And many of us bilk clients and investors out of millions and are on the lamb - hiding on media backwaters
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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #10331 on: November 05, 2020, 04:43:38 PM »
-Unemployment didn't have much effect on traffic volumes. Teleworking made a much bigger effect in the metro than it did outstate (45% decrease in Hennepin County alone, only 12% of workers based in downtown Mpls in February were still going after COVID started).

-Commercial truck traffic volumes came back with a vengeance and is running 10+% ahead of past years.

-Does short-term travel influence COVID? Yes, at least the county level. 

-Lot of noise in mobile device-based tracking. Generally, grocery and hardware stores lined up less with outbreaks. Higher number of long visits done indoors was a much tighter correlation. Long visits to bars were almost directly lined up with heavy caseloads. Visits to hardware stores went through the roof after SAH, but dont line up due to short visits. This data doesn't, and shouldn't, replace the loop detectors in the freeway. 

Several very interesting observations.
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