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Topic: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas

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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #10304 on: November 05, 2020, 09:08:34 AM »
my doc said that asymptomatic school kids aren't spreading it to others, generally

I'm sure there are exceptions
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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #10305 on: November 05, 2020, 09:21:40 AM »
This ain't good.

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-54818615

The virus spread to mink, mutated, and spread back to humans. Denmark is destroying their entire mink herd (15-17 million animals) in an attempt to put an end to this mutation.

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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #10306 on: November 05, 2020, 09:22:47 AM »
PETA won't be happy
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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #10307 on: November 05, 2020, 09:26:05 AM »
Does anyone even wear fur coats anymore? My wife tried to sell hers and she ended up donating them.
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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #10308 on: November 05, 2020, 09:27:26 AM »
This ain't good.

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-54818615

The virus spread to mink, mutated, and spread back to humans. Denmark is destroying their entire mink herd (15-17 million animals) in an attempt to put an end to this mutation.
Man that seems so sad

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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #10309 on: November 05, 2020, 09:56:14 AM »
This ain't good.

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-54818615

The virus spread to mink, mutated, and spread back to humans. Denmark is destroying their entire mink herd (15-17 million animals) in an attempt to put an end to this mutation.
The key here is that this is from a press release and findings have not yet been issued by scientists

If this mutation does make current vaccines under development ineffective we will know shortly

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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #10310 on: November 05, 2020, 09:59:46 AM »
I can remember going to department stores with my mom as a kid, and even at the mid-level type stores we went to (no Saks Fifth Avenue for us), there were always a ton of furs on the racks.

Definitely don't see it nearly as often these days.

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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #10311 on: November 05, 2020, 10:01:14 AM »
my doc said that asymptomatic school kids aren't spreading it to others, generally

I'm sure there are exceptions
As noted, IF the primary spread is cough/sneeze, this would make sense, but you could still get it from a shout etc., and we all cough at times.

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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #10312 on: November 05, 2020, 10:05:28 AM »
As noted, IF the primary spread is cough/sneeze, this would make sense, but you could still get it from a shout etc., and we all cough at times.
Kids don't carry as much viral load as adults, and the spreading rate (and severity) seem to be heavily tied to viral load in the carrier, so it makes sense that children don't transmit as much or as often.  

Older kids in high school are more grown, so it also makes sense that transmission rates are higher in those age groups.

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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #10313 on: November 05, 2020, 10:07:42 AM »
Does anyone even wear fur coats anymore? My wife tried to sell hers and she ended up donating them.
they don't have a PETA branch in Europe?
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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #10314 on: November 05, 2020, 10:23:49 AM »
They are a bit more common in France than here I think.  I'm sure there is a market for them, small but steady.

Most of us don't hobnob with the types who wear them I surmise.

Just up the street from us is an exclusive private club and I imagine the ladies there wear furs at times and big diamonds etc.  They don't accept new member applications.

It's an interesting place with some history.

https://www.drivingclub.org/

We walk by it nearly every day.  Our neighbor knows one member who said she'd take my wife there for lunch "sometime".




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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #10316 on: November 05, 2020, 11:16:14 AM »
https://www.economist.com/leaders/2020/10/10/the-real-lessons-from-swedens-approach-to-covid-19?fsrc=scn/fb/te/bl/ed/landofthemaskfreethereallessonsfromswedensapproachtocovid19leaders&fbclid=IwAR3Rgmk29ZLII1KTJZXfId4GANh2XXWUSQA9__sdncBmODhhZee6upW--qU

The gist of the article if you can't read it is how Sweden can be used by "both sides", and the real answer there is somewhere in the middle.
Good article. And yeah, Sweden tends to be used by "both sides":

The anti-lockdown side: "Look, Sweden didn't do anything, and they're doing fine! We should do nothing and just get to herd immunity like them! And I'm not going to participate in any damned contact tracing! The government doesn't need to know who I've been around! It's tyranny, man!"

Counterpoint: Sweden actually has done quite a bit, has had clear messaging from the government, has a very high-trust society, and somewhat unique demographics. And despite the claim they've done "nothing", their economy was hit extremely hard and people have had to dramatically change their behavior, which quite frankly is what the anti-lockdowners are arguing they shouldn't have to do. And they're not aiming for herd immunity, they're aiming for an appropriate balance between lockdown and commerce that allows people to still live while doing everything they can to contain spread where it occurs (robust testing and contact tracing).

The pro-lockdown side: "Sweden is doing horribly compared to their 'peers' and if you try to take their approach and do it in places with worse demographics, everyone will DIE! And by the way, by you even mentioning Sweden I know you're an anti-science MAGA-er and therefore I can dismiss anything you say without engaging at all."

Counterpoint: No, there are certainly lessons to be taken from Sweden. Sweden has somewhat successfully managed this virus, trying to find a middle ground between doing nothing and locking everything down. Every other country that has tried locking down is ending up with quarantine fatigue, so we should look at some of the things Sweden has been doing, which are mostly [as far as I can tell] evidence-based for how we can move forward with a partially-open economy that balances commerce and safety. 

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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #10317 on: November 05, 2020, 12:11:36 PM »
Kids don't carry as much viral load as adults, 
I've heard the exact opposite from some credible source I've forgotten.  Cool.
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