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Re: SOC 12/1-12/2 CCG Edition
« Reply #910 on: December 16, 2023, 08:49:17 AM »
The AP is basically a bunch of independent writers/reporters who do stories hoping they get picked up by some major media outlets and get paid.

The Orange Bowl, to me, is a huge unknowable.  I've seen "reports" that Carson Beck and Bowers won't play, and the #2 QB portaled to Kentucky.

Well, I've seen reports that FSU won't play as a team also, so "reports" at times quite possibly maybe COULD be faulty, dunno.
Not really. You can find a list of all the pollsters here, and who they work for.

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Re: SOC 12/1-12/2 CCG Edition
« Reply #911 on: December 16, 2023, 08:50:44 AM »
Oh, I was speaking about the Associated Press, not their poll.

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Re: SOC 12/1-12/2 CCG Edition
« Reply #912 on: December 17, 2023, 09:03:10 AM »
The AP is basically a bunch of independent writers/reporters who do stories hoping they get picked up by some major media outlets and get paid.

The Orange Bowl, to me, is a huge unknowable.  I've seen "reports" that Carson Beck and Bowers won't play, and the #2 QB portaled to Kentucky.

Well, I've seen reports that FSU won't play as a team also, so "reports" at times quite possibly maybe COULD be faulty, dunno.
This is not correct.

The AP is a large network of reporters and editors called a “wire service.” The majority of their work is quaker stuff that is meant to be available fast. Their goal is to produce content that leans toward being flat but can get in fast and be cut to fit what newspapers needs. They have offices in every state and also employ some freelancers.

The AP Poll is just a poll of writers from across the country with some geographical consideration. The AP runs it, and I suppose if you worked for an outlet that didn’t use the AP you might not be able to get a vote, but every outlet uses the AP is so that doesn’t matter.

Historically the geographical diversity mattered somewhat. What with the lack of TV broadcasts. At this point it’s very antiquated because of the changing role of those writers and their workloads.

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Re: SOC 12/1-12/2 CCG Edition
« Reply #913 on: December 17, 2023, 09:06:08 AM »
Almost every newspaper in this country is a member of the AP.
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Re: SOC 12/1-12/2 CCG Edition
« Reply #914 on: December 18, 2023, 10:32:54 AM »
I might have to stay an extra day to attend this one.........

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Re: SOC 12/1-12/2 CCG Edition
« Reply #915 on: December 18, 2023, 10:38:00 AM »
That's a nice stadium, should be a fun game.  Weather in Dallas at the time of year is iffy, but you've done it before, so you know that.

One of the coldest, most miserable days of my life, was spent at the Cotton Bowl on January 1, 1991.  The 46-3 loss didn't help, either.

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« Reply #916 on: December 18, 2023, 11:39:57 AM »
only 30 minutes from the brother's house
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Re: SOC 12/1-12/2 CCG Edition
« Reply #917 on: December 19, 2023, 11:45:17 AM »
We'll I'll be damned.  Apparently, you can win an internet argument.  I've changed my opinion.  A few months ago I was adamantly for expanding the playoff to 12 teams and opposed to keeping the bowls as they were 30+ years ago.  Now after seeing all the logic and arguments now I think the old way was better.  

Carry on gentlemen.  

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« Reply #918 on: December 19, 2023, 11:55:19 AM »
We'll I'll be damned.  Apparently, you can win an internet argument.  I've changed my opinion.  A few months ago I was adamantly for expanding the playoff to 12 teams and opposed to keeping the bowls as they were 30+ years ago.  Now after seeing all the logic and arguments now I think the old way was better. 

Carry on gentlemen. 

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Re: SOC 12/1-12/2 CCG Edition
« Reply #919 on: December 19, 2023, 12:11:45 PM »
I the idea of having some way of determining a champion

I just think involving 12 teams is too many

8 would be better
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« Reply #920 on: December 19, 2023, 12:12:30 PM »
or 2
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Re: SOC 12/1-12/2 CCG Edition
« Reply #921 on: December 19, 2023, 12:18:18 PM »
I the idea of having some way of determining a champion

I just think involving 12 teams is too many

8 would be better
I used to think the same way, but this line of thinking is only making the sport worse as I have come to realize.  Your team will be more on the IN as one of the have's.  As the haves consolidate more power the have-not's will be reduced to nothing and thus destroying the sport we all know and love.  

Go back to the old bowl system.  Chaos is king here.  

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Re: SOC 12/1-12/2 CCG Edition
« Reply #922 on: December 19, 2023, 12:22:31 PM »
I used to think the same way, but this line of thinking is only making the sport worse as I have come to realize.  Your team will be more on the IN as one of the have's.  As the haves consolidate more power the have-not's will be reduced to nothing and thus destroying the sport we all know and love. 

Go back to the old bowl system.  Chaos is king here. 
I loved it when the Rose, Sugar, Orange, Cotton and Fiesta all meant something.

The ship has sailed, and the game we love is almost over. 
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Re: SOC 12/1-12/2 CCG Edition
« Reply #923 on: December 19, 2023, 12:26:04 PM »
the way of determining a champion has done very little harm when compared to the affect of the NIL system and the transfer portal

When compensating the players started that gave the haves a huge boost
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