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Topic: SOC 12/1-12/2 CCG Edition

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Honestbuckeye

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Re: SOC 12/1-12/2 CCG Edition
« Reply #350 on: December 03, 2023, 10:44:32 PM »
Quote from: SuperMario on December 03, 2023, 10:18:28 PM
Can someone explain to me what I’m missing on the eye test with Bama?

They needed a Hail Mary to beat a very average Auburn team. Ok, can’t discount a big play. But they also struggled with an 8 loss Arkansas team. Struggled with a 7-5 A&M team. Lost at home to Texas.

The big Tennessee win? Oh the TN that lost to the Gators?

The big Kentucky win, who lost 5 of their last 7?

Chattanooga?

Yes, they beat the #1 Georgia team, but hearing this garbage they pass the eye test and have been a different team since losing to Texas is a freaking joke. They had one great game against Georgia. Besides that, they don’t look like a great team and this committee was all about money and creating a reason rest people accept the new playoff model and sneak in a SEC team. It’s total garbage and I feel terrible for FSU who earned it on the field.

I hope FSU beats Georgia and Michigan stomps Bama to show what a sham this was.
Amen.  I just laugh when I hear “ the 4 best teams.”  Says who?    That is nothing more than a concept.  a theory. 

I like Michigan in that match up. 

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Re: SOC 12/1-12/2 CCG Edition
« Reply #351 on: December 03, 2023, 11:08:59 PM »
I love how the idea that the committee members simply did what they thought was best isn't even a possibility for some of you.

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Re: SOC 12/1-12/2 CCG Edition
« Reply #352 on: December 04, 2023, 12:14:00 AM »
Quote from: SuperMario on December 03, 2023, 10:18:28 PM
Can someone explain to me what I’m missing on the eye test with Bama?

They needed a Hail Mary to beat a very average Auburn team. Ok, can’t discount a big play. But they also struggled with an 8 loss Arkansas team. Struggled with a 7-5 A&M team. Lost at home to Texas.

The big Tennessee win? Oh the TN that lost to the Gators?

The big Kentucky win, who lost 5 of their last 7?

Chattanooga?

Yes, they beat the #1 Georgia team, but hearing this garbage they pass the eye test and have been a different team since losing to Texas is a freaking joke. They had one great game against Georgia. Besides that, they don’t look like a great team and this committee was all about money and creating a reason rest people accept the new playoff model and sneak in a SEC team. It’s total garbage and I feel terrible for FSU who earned it on the field.

I hope FSU beats Georgia and Michigan stomps Bama to show what a sham this was.
FSU won its right into the playoff but was cut out. Alabama didn't. This year will be the first mythical national championship year in several years.
  • Texas defeated Alabama 34-24.
  • The following week Alabama defeated USF (6-6) 17-3 (The Florida Atlantic Owls (4-8) defeated USF 56-14)
  • Then Alabama edged Texas A & M (7-5) 26-20
  • Then Alabama edged Arkansas (4-8) 24-21
  • Then Alabama edged Auburn (6-6) (3-5) on last second heroics.
Alabama defeated two ranked teams. FSU defeated 3 ranked teams.

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Re: SOC 12/1-12/2 CCG Edition
« Reply #353 on: December 04, 2023, 12:26:41 AM »
In addition the nonconference schedule of Alabama, included such daunting opponents, as:

  • Middle Tennessee State (4-8)
  • USF (6-6)
  • Chattanooga (FCS school) (8-5)

FSU nonconference schedule:
  • LSU (9-3) 45-24 win
  • Southern Miss (3-9)
  • North Alabama (3-8)
  • Florida (5-7)
Two SEC teams.
Alabama and FSU had one common opponent, LSU. Alabama defeated LSU 42-28. Alabama defeated LSU by 14; FSU defeated LSU by 21. What does the committee not understand?
It just seems to me FSU has a stronger resume than Alabama; FSU earned it throughout the season and finished undefeated. 
I understand the QB situation, but Rodemaker was experienced and would be back for the playoff.

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Re: SOC 12/1-12/2 CCG Edition
« Reply #354 on: December 04, 2023, 12:31:08 AM »
Everyone ignoring FSU is far worse without Travis at QB AND THAT MATTERING:
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Re: SOC 12/1-12/2 CCG Edition
« Reply #355 on: December 04, 2023, 12:31:32 AM »
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Re: SOC 12/1-12/2 CCG Edition
« Reply #356 on: December 04, 2023, 12:36:42 AM »
Alabama scheduled nonconference opponents, just to get by.
FSU scheduled nonconference opponents, to take a chance, to get in.
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Re: SOC 12/1-12/2 CCG Edition
« Reply #357 on: December 04, 2023, 12:40:23 AM »
OR...
one is in the best conference and the other is in a weaker one, knows it, schedules as such, and was scratching and clawing to leave it 6 months ago.


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Re: SOC 12/1-12/2 CCG Edition
« Reply #358 on: December 04, 2023, 12:42:59 AM »
FSU was undefeated against SEC opponents. Alabama was not.
Explain Alabama's nonconference scheduling.
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Re: SOC 12/1-12/2 CCG Edition
« Reply #359 on: December 04, 2023, 01:33:05 AM »
This has nothing to do with scheduling.
It has to do with Jordan Travis.  It has to do with FSU's anemic offense vs Florida and Louisville.  They could have played their way into the playoff, but they didn't.
This isn't complicated.
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Re: SOC 12/1-12/2 CCG Edition
« Reply #360 on: December 04, 2023, 05:36:47 AM »
They really did play their way in, though. The 3rd string QB, who won’t even be the starter in the bowl game,  just wasn’t as impressive as the committee would have liked.

I understand the committee’s rationale but totally get FSU’s anger. You can understand FSU being upset, right?
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Re: SOC 12/1-12/2 CCG Edition
« Reply #361 on: December 04, 2023, 06:19:00 AM »
Quote from: OrangeAfroMan on December 04, 2023, 01:33:05 AM
This has nothing to do with scheduling.
It has to do with Jordan Travis.  It has to do with FSU's anemic offense vs Florida and Louisville.  They could have played their way into the playoff, but they didn't.
This isn't complicated.
There is no evidence they could have played their way in. In fact, quite the opposite.
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Re: SOC 12/1-12/2 CCG Edition
« Reply #362 on: December 04, 2023, 06:57:01 AM »
Quote from: bayareabadger on December 03, 2023, 06:14:26 PM
I was in a movie and then got dinner, but intersting to see participation trophy culture won out. Quite silly.

I guess if we needed something to make a 12-team playoff seem more useful, this was it.
#13 would be screaming bloody murder.
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Re: SOC 12/1-12/2 CCG Edition
« Reply #363 on: December 04, 2023, 07:03:32 AM »
Quote from: Hawkinole on December 04, 2023, 12:42:59 AM
FSU was undefeated against SEC opponents. Alabama was not.

Alabama was undefeated against SEC opponents as well.  Their sole loss was to Texas, who is not (yet) an SEC team.
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