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Honestbuckeye

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Re: SOC 12/1-12/2 CCG Edition
« Reply #182 on: December 03, 2023, 09:10:13 AM »
1. Washington
2. Michigan
3. Texas
4. Alabama
I don’t know how you justify Bama over FSU with facts or results.  
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Re: SOC 12/1-12/2 CCG Edition
« Reply #183 on: December 03, 2023, 09:14:34 AM »
I don’t know how you justify Bama over FSU with facts or results. 
The only fact is that FSU is not what it was a month ago. They struggled last night and against UF last week.

Not fact:

I think Bama is playing as well as anyone right now.
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Re: SOC 12/1-12/2 CCG Edition
« Reply #184 on: December 03, 2023, 09:16:05 AM »
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Re: SOC 12/1-12/2 CCG Edition
« Reply #185 on: December 03, 2023, 09:16:18 AM »
The only fact is that FSU is not what it was a month ago. They struggled last night and against UF last week.

Not fact:

I think Bama is playing as well as anyone right now.
Though Bama did struggle with Auburn way more than FSU struggled with anybody

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Re: SOC 12/1-12/2 CCG Edition
« Reply #186 on: December 03, 2023, 09:19:55 AM »

Found this on another site "How fitting would it be for former Ohio State commit Brock Glenn to send the 'Noles to the CFP tomorrow night."

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Re: SOC 12/1-12/2 CCG Edition
« Reply #187 on: December 03, 2023, 09:25:31 AM »
The only fact is that FSU is not what it was a month ago. They struggled last night and against UF last week.

Not fact:

I think Bama is playing as well as anyone right now.
FSU beat a top 15 team with their 3rd string QB.
They kept a team that averages over 30 a game to 2 field goals.  They beat 3 top 15 teams including an SEC team.  They are undefeated and conference champs. 

Bama was purely lucky to win one game ago v Auburn.

If we’re going to get subjective and use a beauty contest, then we need to go all the way.

all the one loss teams who has the best loss?

Thats easy.  Ohio State.  List a close game on the road to the number 2 team. 

by no means in my advocating for Ohio State. Far from it. Just illustrating that if you’re going to get subjective for some people, but use results for other people, your argument falls apart.
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Re: SOC 12/1-12/2 CCG Edition
« Reply #188 on: December 03, 2023, 09:32:10 AM »
The only fact is that FSU is not what it was a month ago. They struggled last night and against UF last week.

Not fact:

I think Bama is playing as well as anyone right now.
I would also add that Alabama “ struggled” more last week with their rival than FSU did against their rival - and that was with their 2nd and 3rd string QB.  
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Re: SOC 12/1-12/2 CCG Edition
« Reply #189 on: December 03, 2023, 09:32:36 AM »
One way to do it is consider who would be favored against whom.  I suspect UGA and Michigan would be close to even on a neutral field, both would be favored over anyone else.  The next two in might be Bama and Ohio State, but Texas could be favored or close to it as well.

This isn't what will happen of course, and it's not the methodology, and I'm not suggesting it should happen.  It's just a way.

I kinda hope it ends up, realistically, UM UDubb FSU and Texas.

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Re: SOC 12/1-12/2 CCG Edition
« Reply #190 on: December 03, 2023, 09:45:57 AM »
Someone pointed this out and it got me thinking. Let’s say Florida State gets sent to the Orange bowl. And let’s say they went out with a backup QB. 

You’re gonna have a CFP champion and a 14-0 team. Is that something the arbiters of the sport risk? 

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Re: SOC 12/1-12/2 CCG Edition
« Reply #191 on: December 03, 2023, 10:04:23 AM »
One way to do it is consider who would be favored against whom.  I suspect UGA and Michigan would be close to even on a neutral field, both would be favored over anyone else.  The next two in might be Bama and Ohio State UW, but Texas could be favored or close to it as well.
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Re: SOC 12/1-12/2 CCG Edition
« Reply #192 on: December 03, 2023, 10:07:40 AM »
One way to do it is consider who would be favored against whom.  I suspect UGA and Michigan would be close to even on a neutral field, both would be favored over anyone else.  The next two in might be Bama and Ohio State, but Texas could be favored or close to it as well.

This isn't what will happen of course, and it's not the methodology, and I'm not suggesting it should happen.  It's just a way.

I kinda hope it ends up, realistically, UM UDubb FSU and Texas.
Who is favored is so completely irrelevant- in fact is the absolute worst way to do it. 

Oregon was favored over Washington.   Should they just skip the game and let Vegas pick the winner?   Georgia was favored over Bama.   
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Re: SOC 12/1-12/2 CCG Edition
« Reply #193 on: December 03, 2023, 10:08:36 AM »
I just want to see the SEC excluded.

Not based on any actual rational argument. 

It would just be fun to watch that conference lose their collective sh!t. 

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Re: SOC 12/1-12/2 CCG Edition
« Reply #194 on: December 03, 2023, 10:11:11 AM »
Well Texas>Bama>Dawgs and FSU undefeated
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Re: SOC 12/1-12/2 CCG Edition
« Reply #195 on: December 03, 2023, 10:14:42 AM »
I would also add that Alabama “ struggled” more last week with their rival than FSU did against their rival - and that was with their 2nd and 3rd string QB. 
UF also had no QB. Mertz is out. UF finished 5-7 - no bowl.
Plus - The Iron Bowl. It just means more. ;)

Auburn will be in the Music City Bowl, most likely.

If OSU goes to the Orange, UW goes to Nashville. If OSU goes anywhere else, UW goes to Tampa to take on LSU.

We'll find out today. Gonna be really interesting.
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