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Topic: SOC 12/1-12/2 CCG Edition

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Hawkinole

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Re: SOC 12/1-12/2 CCG Edition
« Reply #126 on: December 02, 2023, 09:43:55 PM »
FSU's defense is about as good as Iowa's; plus they have offensive players, Iowa doesn't. Easily a Top 10 team. They are undefeated. Rodemaker will be available for playoffs. Top 4 team for playoffs, if FSU wins tonight.

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Re: SOC 12/1-12/2 CCG Edition
« Reply #127 on: December 02, 2023, 09:46:48 PM »
Remember- FSU you see now is not the team you would see in the playoffs.  

The defense is, and they look superb.  

The offense would be their 2nd string QB who had already shown he can lead them to a high point output.   

No undefeated conf champ has ever been left out.   If you do that now you really are saying the outcomes don’t count. 

Besides that, nobody can agree on who the best 4 teams are.  It’s totally subjective.  
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Re: SOC 12/1-12/2 CCG Edition
« Reply #128 on: December 02, 2023, 09:47:13 PM »
Yeah, but my nonsense is based in fact. Those are the four best teams on SP+, which is an actual objective metric. What you want is objectivity when it favors you, and subjectivity when it favors you. You have no actual guidelines, just whatever you think at the time. Which is, at least, how we pick the playoff field, at least for this last year.
Why is pretending the current FSU team is the same one as a month ago a good idea?  
Why is denying truth good?
If you're the loudest voice of dissention, I'm more confident in my opinion.
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Re: SOC 12/1-12/2 CCG Edition
« Reply #129 on: December 02, 2023, 09:47:56 PM »
Pretending the FSU that went 9-0 is the same one that may go 3-0 is fantasyland.  Lie to yourself all you want.  The games DO matter, and I'm watching them, and FSU sucks now.  They didn't suck for 12 games, but they suck now.

btw, it has literally NOTHING to do with recruiting rankings.  Not sure why you and others conjure that in this discussion.
In a month FSU’s second string QB will be back, not the 3rd string.  Results have to trump what any of us think.  I thought UGA would beat Bama.  I was wrong.  No, I don’t think FSU with its 2nd string QB is one of the 4 best teams in the country, but a 13-0 ACC champion deserves to be in the playoffs.

Results matter more than what we think.

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Re: SOC 12/1-12/2 CCG Edition
« Reply #130 on: December 02, 2023, 09:48:28 PM »
Remember- FSU you see now is not the team you would see in the playoffs. 

The defense is, and they look superb. 

The offense would be their 2nd string QB who had already shown he can lead them to a high point output. 

No undefeated conf champ has ever been left out.  If you do that now you really are saying the outcomes don’t count.

Besides that, nobody can agree on who the best 4 teams are.  It’s totally subjective. 
I'll never understand this argument for anything.
“The Swamp is where Gators live.  We feel comfortable there, but we hope our opponents feel tentative. A swamp is hot and sticky and can be dangerous." - Steve Spurrier

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Re: SOC 12/1-12/2 CCG Edition
« Reply #131 on: December 02, 2023, 09:48:48 PM »
1st Half...

21 punts

321 total yards

B1G and ACC games combined

I love a defense dominated game, but if Michigan doesn't have the punt return.....

Is Corum getting the normal amount of regular snaps? 

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Re: SOC 12/1-12/2 CCG Edition
« Reply #132 on: December 02, 2023, 09:49:05 PM »
Why is pretending the current FSU team is the same one as a month ago a good idea? 
Why is denying truth good?
If you're the loudest voice of dissention, I'm more confident in my opinion.
Why do you think it's your job to pretend when the results are right there on the field?

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Re: SOC 12/1-12/2 CCG Edition
« Reply #133 on: December 02, 2023, 09:49:29 PM »
Oregon so good they lost to Washington twice!

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Re: SOC 12/1-12/2 CCG Edition
« Reply #134 on: December 02, 2023, 09:52:48 PM »
This argument will stay so circular. 

OAM will hammer the point that the world should be a certain way. He will argue as if any other outlook is blasphemy.

How do you spell point out more conventional logic and he will roll his eyes and rage against it. And it’ll end with whatever happens. 

My gut is the folks that decide this won’t have the guts to do something that dramatic. Maybe they will. They’ve basically never done something daring, but maybe this time. 

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Re: SOC 12/1-12/2 CCG Edition
« Reply #135 on: December 02, 2023, 09:53:38 PM »
OAM, how do we sponsor you to be a CFP Committee member? You'd clearly bring a... unique... perspective. Maybe your Whoa Nellie experience is enough to get into "the room where it happened"?

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Re: SOC 12/1-12/2 CCG Edition
« Reply #136 on: December 02, 2023, 09:55:27 PM »
Actually, no.

From the CFP's own website:




This is absolutely NOT a case of OAM raging and being crazy.  I'm simply going by WHAT THE COMMITTEE says their job is.

PLEASE tell me how I'm wrong now.  This is called evidence.  Please, please, get creative and sweep THIS under the rug.
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Re: SOC 12/1-12/2 CCG Edition
« Reply #137 on: December 02, 2023, 09:55:52 PM »
See above.  

Nothing more need be said.
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Re: SOC 12/1-12/2 CCG Edition
« Reply #138 on: December 02, 2023, 10:03:59 PM »
Actually, no.

From the CFP's own website:




This is absolutely NOT a case of OAM raging and being crazy.  I'm simply going by WHAT THE COMMITTEE says their job is.

PLEASE tell me how I'm wrong now.  This is called evidence.  Please, please, get creative and sweep THIS under the rug.
TCU wasn’t one of the four best teams last season, but they earned it based on results and surprised everyone by beating Michigan.  FSU without its starting QB isn’t one of the best 4 but will have earned it with a 13-0 record.  

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Re: SOC 12/1-12/2 CCG Edition
« Reply #139 on: December 02, 2023, 10:04:25 PM »
Based on the results on the field so far this season- if FSU managed to win this game- I don’t know how you could conclude they are NOT one of the 4 best teams.  

They are shutting out a really good offense.  And with a month of bowl practice the better ( Highly recruited 2nd string) QB, it appears that they could be competitive with the other contenders.   
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