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Re: SOC 12/1-12/2 CCG Edition
« Reply #112 on: December 02, 2023, 09:23:28 PM »
Someone tell me FSU is a top 4 team.
Tell me they're a top 10 team.
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Hell, I can make the argument that allowing FSU in isn't fair to the 2 playoff teams that don't play the Noles in the 1st round.  Whoever draws FSU gets a layup victory in the semifinal, while the other two WORTHY teams duke it out in a big-boy game.
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While unfortunate, FSU does not belong anywhere near the playoff.  This is not the team that became an undefeated conference champ. It's a shell of it.
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Most of you need to stop dealing in absolutes and open your eyes.
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Re: SOC 12/1-12/2 CCG Edition
« Reply #113 on: December 02, 2023, 09:27:50 PM »
First 20 min in Charlotte:

60 combined total yards
combined 0-10 on 3rd downs

Garbage.  It's like Iowa vs Iowa.
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Re: SOC 12/1-12/2 CCG Edition
« Reply #114 on: December 02, 2023, 09:28:48 PM »
Quote from: OrangeAfroMan on December 02, 2023, 09:23:28 PM
Someone tell me FSU is a top 4 team.
Tell me they're a top 10 team.
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Hell, I can make the argument that allowing FSU in isn't fair to the 2 playoff teams that don't play the Noles in the 1st round.  Whoever draws FSU gets a layup victory in the semifinal, while the other two WORTHY teams duke it out in a big-boy game.
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While unfortunate, FSU does not belong anywhere near the playoff.  This is not the team that became an undefeated conference champ. It's a shell of it.
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Most of you need to stop dealing in absolutes and open your eyes.
If FSU wins they are a top four team. Anything less and you are saying the games don't count, it's some sort of other thing. Go ahead, tell me the games don't matter and we need to look at recruiting rankings and whatever when determining the playoff field. Just don't go on about how important the games are and then say they don't matter.
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Re: SOC 12/1-12/2 CCG Edition
« Reply #115 on: December 02, 2023, 09:29:18 PM »
Iowa total 1st half bet was .5 
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Re: SOC 12/1-12/2 CCG Edition
« Reply #116 on: December 02, 2023, 09:34:03 PM »
Quote from: MaximumSam on December 02, 2023, 09:28:48 PM
If FSU wins they are a top four team. Anything less and you are saying the games don't count, it's some sort of other thing. Go ahead, tell me the games don't matter and we need to look at recruiting rankings and whatever when determining the playoff field. Just don't go on about how important the games are and then say they don't matter.
Pretending the FSU that went 9-0 is the same one that may go 3-0 is fantasyland.  Lie to yourself all you want.  The games DO matter, and I'm watching them, and FSU sucks now.  They didn't suck for 12 games, but they suck now.

btw, it has literally NOTHING to do with recruiting rankings.  Not sure why you and others conjure that in this discussion. 
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Re: SOC 12/1-12/2 CCG Edition
« Reply #117 on: December 02, 2023, 09:35:01 PM »
Michigan doing the Iowa to Iowa
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Re: SOC 12/1-12/2 CCG Edition
« Reply #118 on: December 02, 2023, 09:35:15 PM »
Quote from: OrangeAfroMan on December 02, 2023, 09:23:28 PM
Someone tell me FSU is a top 4 team.
Tell me they're a top 10 team.
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Hell, I can make the argument that allowing FSU in isn't fair to the 2 playoff teams that don't play the Noles in the 1st round.  Whoever draws FSU gets a layup victory in the semifinal, while the other two WORTHY teams duke it out in a big-boy game.
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While unfortunate, FSU does not belong anywhere near the playoff.  This is not the team that became an undefeated conference champ. It's a shell of it.
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Most of you need to stop dealing in absolutes and open your eyes.
That's nice.

Probably won't matter. 
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Re: SOC 12/1-12/2 CCG Edition
« Reply #119 on: December 02, 2023, 09:36:22 PM »
Quote from: OrangeAfroMan on December 02, 2023, 09:34:03 PM
Pretending the FSU that went 9-0 is the same one that may go 3-0 is fantasyland.  Lie to yourself all you want.  The games DO matter, and I'm watching them, and FSU sucks now.  They didn't suck for 12 games, but they suck now.

btw, it has literally NOTHING to do with recruiting rankings.  Not sure why you and others conjure that in this discussion.
If they suck, then slot them fourth and give a gift to the top ranked team. But doing the Carnac the Magnificent is no way to put up a playoff field.

"PLAYOFF CRITERIA: Win all your games and you will be considered, unless we don't like the look of you."
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Re: SOC 12/1-12/2 CCG Edition
« Reply #120 on: December 02, 2023, 09:36:52 PM »
Also, we already have 5 worthy teams for 4 slots, without FSU.
UM, UW, UGA, ALA, and UTA.  
Any 4 from that group works.  None of them is the layup FSU would be.  

Why do so many people want a gunslinger missing a hand in a duel?  It's morbid.  
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Re: SOC 12/1-12/2 CCG Edition
« Reply #121 on: December 02, 2023, 09:37:50 PM »
Quote from: MaximumSam on December 02, 2023, 09:36:22 PM
If they suck, then slot them fourth and give a gift to the top ranked team. But doing the Carnac the Magnificent is no way to put up a playoff field.

"PLAYOFF CRITERIA: Win all your games and you will be considered, unless we don't like the look of you."
So your answer is "put the sucky team in."
Brilliant.
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Re: SOC 12/1-12/2 CCG Edition
« Reply #122 on: December 02, 2023, 09:39:01 PM »
Quote from: OrangeAfroMan on December 02, 2023, 09:36:52 PM
Also, we already have 5 worthy teams for 4 slots, without FSU.
UM, UW, UGA, ALA, and UTA. 
Any 4 from that group works.  None of them is the layup FSU would be. 

Why do so many people want a gunslinger missing a hand in a duel?  It's morbid. 
Pick the four best. Michigan, Georgia, OSU, and Oregon. Anything less and you are lying to yourself.
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Re: SOC 12/1-12/2 CCG Edition
« Reply #123 on: December 02, 2023, 09:39:30 PM »
This game not leaving me impressed by michigan thus far 
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Re: SOC 12/1-12/2 CCG Edition
« Reply #124 on: December 02, 2023, 09:40:11 PM »
Quote from: MaximumSam on December 02, 2023, 09:39:01 PM
Pick the four best. Michigan, Georgia, OSU, and Oregon. Anything less and you are lying to yourself.
Your nonsense doesn't work in your favor.
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Re: SOC 12/1-12/2 CCG Edition
« Reply #125 on: December 02, 2023, 09:42:35 PM »
Quote from: OrangeAfroMan on December 02, 2023, 09:40:11 PM
Your nonsense doesn't work in your favor.
Yeah, but my nonsense is based in fact. Those are the four best teams on SP+, which is an actual objective metric. What you want is objectivity when it favors you, and subjectivity when it favors you. You have no actual guidelines, just whatever you think at the time. Which is, at least, how we pick the playoff field, at least for this last year. 
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