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OrangeAfroMan

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Re: Second CFP Rankings
« Reply #224 on: November 26, 2021, 07:31:00 PM »
Quote from: MaximumSam on November 26, 2021, 07:25:07 PM
How about look at the games??? As I have advocated this entire thread.
How about look at how the games are against???  Don't be a child.
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Re: Second CFP Rankings
« Reply #225 on: November 26, 2021, 07:34:15 PM »
Quote from: OrangeAfroMan on November 26, 2021, 07:31:00 PM
How about look at how the games are against???  Don't be a child.
So use the many tools available which compare games against dissimilar schedules
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Re: Second CFP Rankings
« Reply #226 on: November 27, 2021, 08:20:44 AM »
I think most of us concur that Cincinnati has a solid team, very good, but probably not on a par with the top five or so.  Maybe all of us think that.

Maybe they get blown out in a CFP game, but if we believe they are on a par with say Ole Miss, they would have a chance albeit not a great chance of beating a "UGA/OSU".

And I don't know currently who "deserves" the spot more.  OSU/UM will resolve, Oklahoma State will win out of not, I can't put ND ahead of them unless they lose.  If Bama edges UGA it gets complicated of course, but if not you  have 2 slots left (presume OSU/UM gets one).  I don't see another likely candidate.

This assumes much of course, like UC has to beat Houston.  It's better for them if OkSU loses of course.  The ACC is out, the Pac is out, so ....
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Re: Second CFP Rankings
« Reply #227 on: November 27, 2021, 02:41:21 PM »
1 Georgia vs 4 Wake Forest

2 Cincinnati vs 3 St. Augustine School for the Deaf & Blind
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Re: Second CFP Rankings
« Reply #228 on: November 27, 2021, 02:50:29 PM »
Quote from: MaximumSam on November 26, 2021, 06:25:05 PM
I mean, right now, you can make a very healthy case that Cincinnati is better than any Big 12 team, just based on results on the field. You are saying that if the Big 12 teams all play each other and one emerges champion, that makes them a better team. I can see how you would rather reward the Big 12 team by playing the tougher schedule, but playing a tougher schedule doesn't mean any of them are magically better teams.
Dogshit schedules are rewarded with dogshit bowl games. Cincy can thank their AD if they are rightfully left out.
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« Reply #229 on: November 27, 2021, 03:05:21 PM »
Quote from: um1963 on November 27, 2021, 02:50:29 PM
Dogshit schedules are rewarded with dogshit bowl games. Cincy can thank their AD if they are rightfully left out.
He scheduled a one off at Notre Dame.
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Re: Second CFP Rankings
« Reply #230 on: November 27, 2021, 03:53:14 PM »
Right, they had 1 losable game this year.
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« Reply #231 on: November 27, 2021, 03:54:25 PM »
Quote from: OrangeAfroMan on November 27, 2021, 03:53:14 PM
Right, they had 1 losable game this year.
Well, OSU had two and guess what their record is.
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Re: Second CFP Rankings
« Reply #232 on: November 27, 2021, 03:56:47 PM »
The team you're neglecting for some reason, UTSA, is down 18 at the half.

According to you, though, if they were to go undefeated, they'd deserve a playoff spot over Ohio State or some other evil, entitled 10-2 team with an actual schedule.
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Re: Second CFP Rankings
« Reply #233 on: November 27, 2021, 03:57:26 PM »
M should probably slide up to #2 after this win.
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Re: Second CFP Rankings
« Reply #234 on: November 27, 2021, 04:14:09 PM »
Quote from: OrangeAfroMan on November 27, 2021, 03:56:47 PM
The team you're neglecting for some reason, UTSA, is down 18 at the half.

According to you, though, if they were to go undefeated, they'd deserve a playoff spot over Ohio State or some other evil, entitled 10-2 team with an actual schedule.
I'm not ignoring them at all. Fun team. By the fancystats (F+), they are 43rd in the country. Cincinnati is 6th.
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Re: Second CFP Rankings
« Reply #235 on: November 27, 2021, 05:03:50 PM »
If Michigan manages to win the Big Ten next weekend then I will change my philosophy and fully agree that Cincy deserves a playoff spot and hope that they meet in the semifinals.  If it doesn't play out exactly like this then I will maintain my current position that Cincy has no business in the playoffs.
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Re: Second CFP Rankings
« Reply #236 on: November 27, 2021, 05:07:12 PM »
So, who should be in instead of Cincy?  I can see Oklahoma State IFF they win out.

We could have mayhem if Michigam loses next week.
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Re: Second CFP Rankings
« Reply #237 on: November 27, 2021, 05:19:39 PM »
Quote from: Cincydawg on November 27, 2021, 05:07:12 PM
So, who should be in instead of Cincy?  I can see Oklahoma State IFF they win out.

We could have mayhem if Michigam loses next week.
Anyone to be honest. I don't think their schedule or narrow wins against several lackluster opponents warrants consideration.  Maybe they're one of the four best, but it was their responsibility to play a schedule that allowed them to show they belong.  A single game against Notre Dame doesn't do that for me.
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