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Topic: Schools where players at certain positions go to die

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Re: Schools where players at certain positions go to die
« Reply #70 on: May 27, 2020, 12:50:48 PM »
Athens is a really nice town for college kids.  The weather is pretty decent (summers are hot of course).  UGA has been in the mix the last few years, and often credible under Richt.  UGA has a good record of getting juniors into the pros a year early.  It should be on the longer list of any five star perhaps excepting QB, though they have recruited 5 star QBs of late as well.  If it matters, it's decent academically, without being anywhere near elite of course.

If they get someone from outside the south on campus, they often have a shot.  They should be solid this season, if we have one, I suspect, probably better than last year.


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« Reply #71 on: May 27, 2020, 12:57:18 PM »
Athens is a really nice town for college kids.  The weather is pretty decent (summers are hot of course).  UGA has been in the mix the last few years, and often credible under Richt.  UGA has a good record of getting juniors into the pros a year early.  It should be on the longer list of any five star perhaps excepting QB, though they have recruited 5 star QBs of late as well.  If it matters, it's decent academically, without being anywhere near elite of course.

If they get someone from outside the south on campus, they often have a shot.  They should be solid this season, if we have one, I suspect, probably better than last year.
Kirby should've dumped Fromm for Fields.

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Re: Schools where players at certain positions go to die
« Reply #72 on: May 27, 2020, 01:31:08 PM »
Kirby should've dumped Fromm for Fields.
Fromm's backslide was something to behold. 

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« Reply #73 on: May 27, 2020, 01:52:11 PM »
Fromm's backslide was something to behold.
He kind of reminds me of a way less physically talented Chad Henne. Not sure it was so much a backslide as it was the guy just never really got any better. Henne had an awesome true frosh season and you thought- oh man the sky is the limit. Except it wasn't. He just sort of stayed the same and never took a major leap forward.

Same thing with Fromm. He had a great season for a true frosh QB but he never really got any better. Incrementally better, sure, but he never took a massive leap forward. Which is what most expect from a true frosh who has such an impressive rookie season.

And I don't know why he decided to leave early, that was a big mistake. He didn't have the physical talent to leave early and still get picked in the 1st or 2nd rd.

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Re: Schools where players at certain positions go to die
« Reply #74 on: May 27, 2020, 02:08:41 PM »
The WRs were not getting any separation if they didn't have Cager or Pickens out there.  Fromm did "OK" if Cager was on the field.  I don't know if there were play calling issues I'd criticize, but they didn't seem to like screen plays where Fromm would probably have been good.  I agree he should not have left early particularly with so many top QBs in the draft.

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« Reply #75 on: May 27, 2020, 04:37:42 PM »
He kind of reminds me of a way less physically talented Chad Henne. Not sure it was so much a backslide as it was the guy just never really got any better. Henne had an awesome true frosh season and you thought- oh man the sky is the limit. Except it wasn't. He just sort of stayed the same and never took a major leap forward.

Same thing with Fromm. He had a great season for a true frosh QB but he never really got any better. Incrementally better, sure, but he never took a massive leap forward. Which is what most expect from a true frosh who has such an impressive rookie season.

And I don't know why he decided to leave early, that was a big mistake. He didn't have the physical talent to leave early and still get picked in the 1st or 2nd rd.
His passer rating dropped 30 points. His YPA dropped by 1.6. His completion percentage fell nearly 7 percent. The offense fell 30 spots in SP+. 

I know he lost a lot of WR talent and they intentionally downgraded their OC, but I think he also just didn't play well. 

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Re: Schools where players at certain positions go to die
« Reply #76 on: May 27, 2020, 05:49:30 PM »
Same thing happened to the Utah State kid, but he has arm talent.  
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Re: Schools where players at certain positions go to die
« Reply #77 on: May 27, 2020, 06:09:38 PM »
Fromm's performance when they had Cager on the field was decent.  Not great, but decent.  I gather he signed for a nice chunk of change, but he would have done better next year, probably.  The OL was strangely not really very good.  I still don't understand that.

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« Reply #78 on: May 27, 2020, 06:23:22 PM »
Same thing happened to the Utah State kid, but he has arm talent. 
I still can't believe the Packers traded up in the 1st rd to get him.

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Re: Schools where players at certain positions go to die
« Reply #79 on: May 28, 2020, 09:53:30 AM »
The Dawg offense at the latter portion of the season last year was a mystery to me,  They supposedly had an all world OL and near that QB and RB.  They were thin at WR, and has injuries and suspensions that were damaging.  But, they should have been able to roll over teams like USCe and UK (even in a rain storm) with relative ease.  One thing I saw was a drive starting off well usually running the ball and then they'd pass on 2nd 3 and have an miss and then get 2 yards on 3rd down and punt.

I think defenses just didn't worry much about covering the WRs because they wouldn't get separation often other than Cager.  But the play calling was odd, to me, and the overall impact was bad, they were not in my view a top four team overall, just on defense, which got sorely tested.

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Re: Schools where players at certain positions go to die
« Reply #80 on: May 28, 2020, 04:18:08 PM »
That UGA-UK game hurt my brain.
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Re: Schools where players at certain positions go to die
« Reply #81 on: May 28, 2020, 04:33:24 PM »
That was ugly for sure, and puzzling to me.  And I thought they were headed for a loss for over half the game.


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Re: Schools where players at certain positions go to die
« Reply #82 on: May 28, 2020, 04:38:00 PM »
Same thing happened to the Utah State kid, but he has arm talent. 
Jordan Love somehow got worse, yet still got overdrafted, and got his QB coach a P5 job after one year?

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Re: Schools where players at certain positions go to die
« Reply #83 on: May 28, 2020, 05:08:26 PM »
Jordan Love somehow got worse, yet still got overdrafted, and got his QB coach a P5 job after one year?
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