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Michigan promoted Moore despite knowing that he deleted 54 text messages to thwart an NCAA investigation into a massive cheating scheme orchestrated by their coaching staff.

you do realize that just because someone deletes a conversation from their iPhone it does not mean those texts are deleted permanently, right? buddy didn't bleachbit his phone and then destroy it like Hillary.

NCAA recovered those texts. if there was something serious in them, we would've all seen them and he would've been nailed to the cross. 

feel like you should know this for future reference in case you get caught cheating on the wife. she can still recover those texts as long as she has access to your account, even if you delete them from your iPhone.

You make a good point. So instead of fighting one vs the other, they both deserve the death penalty...

I can get behind that. A pox on both your houses! 

NCAA recovered those texts. if there was something serious in them, we would've all seen them and he would've been nailed to the cross.

There is 74 pages of reasons in case you happened to gloss over all of that.But M*played their 30+ million $$$ get out of jail free card.Of course the actual long arm of the law might still might have a say in things with the matt weiss case

Just merge this thread with the hate thread and be done with it.

Michigan people will never accept the fact that what Harbaugh and the rest of UM did was a violation of the integrity of the game on the field.  Selling memorabilia will against the rules had nothing to do with what happened on the field.  They are all in cognitive dissonance, they cannot accept the fact that they root for a team that is corrupt to the core.  The corruption to the core is known because of how the university dealt with the issue.

And OSU fans simplify paying their players to selling memorabilia and that's the most surface level excuse and nowhere near what happened. Just like Stallions paying guys to record other teams signals is probably just the surface of what happened and Michigan must have done a good job sweeping a lot under the rug as did OSU 15 years ago.

I learned a good put me in a check lesson from ELA earlier this year. He's a guy that had connections to the UM program and likely had far more information about the truth than i did.  I had to accept Michigan probably crossed more lines that the stories we were getting or I wanted to admit. My situation is very similar when it comes to OSU with their Tressel situation. My circle just wasn't rumors or things I heard, but directly people involved.

Here's what I learned in both.. OSU & UM get away and have likely gotten away with far more than any other schools in the conference because of one thing. $$$$  There's a part of that as a fan that sucks, but there's also a reality and it's not about ignoring it, it's about just realizing thats been major college sports programs for a while and I still cheer for the guys on the field not the system. Just like I support every military person that's a friend or family, but not necessarily in support of what our government is.. So that being said, the last thing I want to keep hearing and reading is OSU fans snub their noses in the air and scream cheater and talk to the remaining couple UM fans like we're scumbags. It's old and you're flat out freaking hypocrites because your program cheated their asses off under Tressel.. The rest of the fans here? Wisconsin, Purdue, PSU, MSU, Nebraska, etc.. you want to harshly criticize the system and what Michigan gets away with because of money.. I get it.. it's fair..it's not right... and it's what so many parts of our world are run by .. $... OSU fans that keep running their mouths in a condescending A-hole way... i'm done sitting back and being cordial.. the more you make a point to be a pompous A-hole, the more i'll fire back the same way because a couple years of being smug is enough.. typical do what i say not what i do politician