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Pretty sure they fired him.  Definitely wasn't on the cover of a video game

dude got the cover of a video game off one game vs Ohio State in Columbus where he went nuclear. Will Johnson should've been on that cover.

winner winner chicken dinner. this guy has literally started dozens of threads and written hundreds of thesis papers 400,000 words long on the topic at hand for YEARS (get over it already, maybe?) and throws personal insults and shots at anyone who disagrees with his opinion and thinks he's acting like a crying whining hysterical woman.

fact of the matter is his brain is broken. Michigan has broken Ohio State fan base. It's glorious. Michigan has beaten Ohio State 4 years in a row- about to be 5 in a row, they didn't get the hammer like he and his Bucknutjob fanbois were predicting for years, and Michigan is doing better on the 'crootin' trail in Moore's first real full classes in 2025 & 2026 than Jeem had ever done on the trail save for maybe one or two classes in his 10 years in Ann Arbor. Homie is big mad and can't deal.

In the last 13 years your dirtbag program has exactly one legitimate win over my school.  

I NEVER predicted the hammer because i figured the NCAA would continue to prove their worthlessness and they did.  

We need a competent governing body to keep dirtbag programs like Michigan and Auburn in check.  

Everyone can sit there and lecture MDOT21 for name calling, but maybe start with the person that continues to arrogantly make this topic personal over and over. This is specifically the approach that destroys this board. It's one thing to disagree on this topic, it's another when the same individual starts attacking who people are because of this topic. MDOT's language and name calling harms the culture of this board, but so does allowing this approach to be accepted over and over.

MB -you don't know a thing about me. We went to one basketball game together. That's it. You know absolutely nothing about what an irrelevant topic has done or not done to me. Collegiate sports are a minimal part of my life and my family and my business and spending my effort making people's lives better is the where my energy goes. I'm an Ignatius man. Few on this board will understand, but "Men For Others" is where i'm built and where my energy is. Exactly why I'm on here far less than I ever was because my energy is spent in areas I can make the lives of people i encounter better. Feel free to use your energy to use Cheater and try to frame people as shitty humans if they're Michigan fans. It's not a reflection of me in any regards.

I think this is a reasonable point.  It has certainly gotten personal in some cases here, when it doesn't need to be.

I once was chased around all over the predecessors to this message board by C-Dubb, who absolutely insisted on turning every single thread into a "Texas is the cause of all things evil in college football" thread.  Not only was he completely wrong because obviously Michigan is the cause of all things evil in college football, but it was also an absolute beating and made the entire message board a miserable place for all of us who were Texas Longhorn fans.

I think it's reasonable to ask that individuals on this board, not make everything completely miserable for other individuals on this board.

That said-- this specific thread is obviously about the alleged evils of Michigan.  So, a Michigan fan that doesn't want to read about such stuff, probably shouldn't click on this thread.

And what goes along with that, is that people restrict their single-mindedly hate-filled posts to threads that are appropriate for it, so that not every single thread becomes a miserable and unreadable piece of shit.

In other words, everybody needs to grow the fuck up and act like adults,  not 8 year old schoolchildren on a gotdamn playground.

Make sense?  Does everyone think they can do it?  Great, I knew we could.

Everyone can sit there and lecture MDOT21 for name calling, but maybe start with the person that continues to arrogantly make this topic personal over and over. This is specifically the approach that destroys this board. It's one thing to disagree on this topic, it's another when the same individual starts attacking who people are because of this topic. MDOT's language and name calling harms the culture of this board, but so does allowing this approach to be accepted over and over.

MB -you don't know a thing about me. We went to one basketball game together. That's it. You know absolutely nothing about what an irrelevant topic has done or not done to me. Collegiate sports are a minimal part of my life and my family and my business and spending my effort making people's lives better is the where my energy goes. I'm an Ignatius man. Few on this board will understand, but "Men For Others" is where i'm built and where my energy is. Exactly why I'm on here far less than I ever was because my energy is spent in areas I can make the lives of people i encounter better. Feel free to use your energy to use Cheater and try to frame people as shitty humans if they're Michigan fans. It's not a reflection of me in any regards.

I know you well enough to know that you'd be mad as hell if this was any school not named Michigan and the hypocrisy of pretending it is ok just because you choose to root for a school with a 100+ year history of cheating is astounding.  

@Mdot21 is wrong and this thread proves it.  This isn't about Ohio State fans, EVERYONE who respects integrity feels the same way.  Bob Stoops, Josh Pate, @betarhoalphadelta nailed it:

However, what bothers me about the Michigan fans in this thread--save one, who IMHO is incapable of this emotion--is that it seems not a single one of them is ashamed of their team for what happened. Instead, the response is to deny, deflect, and then even to gloat when the punishment was so minimal.

Because Medina is right. This is not just OSU fans calling this out as wrong because it happened to his rival. This is the impartial B1G fans of other schools on this board. This is other institutions. This is former CFB coaches like Stoops upthread. This is the entire college sports media. This is something that a Purdue fan and an IU fan can find common ground on!

I can't put myself in your shoes, but I have to hope about myself that if my Boilermakers had a scandal of this magnitude, I'd at least have the humility and honesty to call it out as wrong, and accept that my school probably deserves to get hammered in punishment.

But I have yet to find any Michigan fan on this board who will do so.

The program you root for is complete and utter trash and EVERYONE outside of the Michigan bubble knows it.  

I think we all know when college football became a hellscape

Ha!

This always amused me, still does actually.  The LHN was simultaneously the cause of everything wrong with college football, but also something no one could ever get on their TV and mostly never even heard of. 

The mental gymnastics required to get to a place like that are impressive.  Stupid and childish, but impressive nonetheless.

Oh and the idea that Bob fucking Stoops has integrity is absolutely laughable.  He didn't cheat quite as bad as $witzer, that's about all that can be said for him.

My understand is that most of the perps at Michigan are now gone, those directly involved who abetted the scheme.  I don't view their program as trash.

I do think some of their Ws during the era of cheating should have been negated, especially that one over UGA in the playoffs.  Oh, never mind.

You laugh but it almost happened.  

Michigan DID advance scout Georgia and with their cheating they were the best team in the country but luckily for Georgia, the cheaters didn't bother to scout TCU and we saw what they were without their cheating.  

If Michigan had escaped TCU . . .