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FearlessF

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Re: Ranking CFP era performance
« Reply #42 on: March 19, 2023, 09:28:21 AM »
Quote from: OrangeAfroMan on March 18, 2023, 04:24:35 PM
If the 12-ranked team gets a bye, due to being one of the top 4 conference champs, it'll all need to be blown up, once again. 
The people who come up with this stuff aren't bright.  And if they are bright, they're not knowledgeable.  It's as if possessing both qualities isn't an option.
well, they will blow it up again regardless

they just like tweaking things
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Re: Ranking CFP era performance
« Reply #43 on: March 20, 2023, 06:45:20 AM »
I'd guess within 20 years we'll go to 16, etc.  Meh.

Somebody will always get left out.   We're going to see some 9-4ish teams get in, and some G5 champion getting a bye some year.  I don't know of course where the B12 and Pac end up, but it's likely not going to be all that pretty.  Then you have the ACC which of late means Clemson and ...

And I don't think SEC teams are going to dominate the 12 annually.  
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« Reply #44 on: March 20, 2023, 08:44:01 AM »
Let's say the 12-team playoff lasts something around 16 years or so.  Or 50.  Or 100.
Assuming they never get a top-4 bye, how many national championships will the G5 programs win?
They'll need 3 consecutive wins over top 10/P5 conf champ teams. 
On what planet is that yielding any NCs for them?
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Re: Ranking CFP era performance
« Reply #45 on: March 20, 2023, 08:48:51 AM »
Who indicated they thought any G5 team had any chance at winning the playoff?  (There is a chance, but it is obviously minimal.  They are being included for legal reasons clearly.)
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Re: Ranking CFP era performance
« Reply #46 on: March 20, 2023, 08:50:30 AM »
which system in the past has survived 16 seasons w/o changes?

the system from the 80's?
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Re: Ranking CFP era performance
« Reply #47 on: March 20, 2023, 08:53:13 AM »
The "system" from say 1936 to around 1975 survived with very few changes, the bowls then started conference affiliations.
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« Reply #48 on: March 20, 2023, 08:55:14 AM »
No one, I'm just asking the question.
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But looking back at the tweaking, oh, how stupid it was.  The BCS tweaking was embarrassing.  Okay, we have this great system for identifying the top 2 teams!  But when it spat out a list they didn't like, they tweaked it.  When it spat out a list with consecutive teams with a head-2-head outcome they didn't like, they tweaked it again. 
Just goes to show how they were either not smart or not savvy when it comes to these things.  They could have included a simple proviso from the start about the h-2-h outcome between consecutively-ranked teams, but they didn't consider that.  We're tweaking a billion-dollar industry's ultimate outcome, but they coudln't be bothered to simply spend enough time pondering it as to include that. 
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« Reply #49 on: March 20, 2023, 09:05:52 AM »
yup, and this 12 team system will be tweaked 

conference champs get priority, until it doesn't suit them

top 4 get a week off until that isn't wanted - then its the top 2 or top 6

SEC isn't getting enough $$$ - tweak!

Notre Dame can't find a way in - Tweak!
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Re: Ranking CFP era performance
« Reply #50 on: March 20, 2023, 09:06:42 AM »
They will still have an allowance to include a G5 team, unless there is a real split.
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« Reply #51 on: March 20, 2023, 09:25:11 PM »
Everyone loves a Cinderella story sacrificial lamb.
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Re: Ranking CFP era performance
« Reply #52 on: March 21, 2023, 07:47:34 AM »
It's not a matter of including some underdog, it's a legal issue they can't traverse without a real split.

The future of the Pac and B12 are very much in the air and their status longer term is ... something which could impact how the playoff plays.

At some point, a "P5" conference can add so many G5 programs that ... 
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« Reply #53 on: March 21, 2023, 08:55:41 AM »
The B1G took a G5 program for TV purposes. I hope that never happens again.
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Re: Ranking CFP era performance
« Reply #54 on: March 21, 2023, 08:57:39 AM »
Quote from: 847badgerfan on March 21, 2023, 08:55:41 AM
The B1G took a G5 program for TV purposes. I hope that never happens again.
I wouldn't call Nebraska a G5 program. :)
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Re: Ranking CFP era performance
« Reply #55 on: March 21, 2023, 09:26:16 AM »
I wonder where PSU would be today had the Big Ten not taken them. 

ACC? I'm not sure they would have wanted that hoops program back in those days. 
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