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Cincydawg

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Re: Ranking CFP era performance
« Reply #28 on: March 18, 2023, 03:22:46 PM »
Quote from: OrangeAfroMan on March 18, 2023, 02:57:52 PM
You could also look at it the other way.....in years Clemson (or whoever) dominates the ACC, ND isn't great, and the PAC has a 2-3 loss champ.......the math starts getting interesting.
Has there been a year in the past 30 years where four SEC teams would have made it?

Remember, there will be one slot at least for a G5 team.
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Re: Ranking CFP era performance
« Reply #29 on: March 18, 2023, 04:22:15 PM »
In 2012, there were 6 SEC teams in the top 11, before the bowls.
The conference champs were:
Alabama, OU/KSU, Stanford, Wisconsin, and FSU....Big East had a 4-way tie of crap salad, so I think we can omit them.
ND was #1.
NIU was the top G5 at 15.
1. #2 Bama
2. #5 Kansas St
3. #6 Stanford
4. #12 FSU
So right off the bat, this gets stupid.  The 12th-ranked team gets a bye. 
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5. #1 ND
6. #3 Florida
7. #4 Oregon
8. #7 Georgia
9. #8 LSU
10. #9 A&M
11. #15 NIU
12. UR Wisconsin?  #21 Louisville?  #19 Boise State?
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So in this fun dumpster fire of an idea, #10 South Carolina is SOL to let in a 2nd mid-major or an unranked team.  Even worse, OU, who was a co-champion of the Big 12, is just sitting out, holding its maroon dick in it's hand.
5 SEC teams get in (I think), with a 6th one as the last one out.
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Re: Ranking CFP era performance
« Reply #30 on: March 18, 2023, 04:24:35 PM »
If the 12-ranked team gets a bye, due to being one of the top 4 conference champs, it'll all need to be blown up, once again.  
The people who come up with this stuff aren't bright.  And if they are bright, they're not knowledgeable.  It's as if possessing both qualities isn't an option.
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Re: Ranking CFP era performance
« Reply #31 on: March 18, 2023, 04:44:49 PM »
One year in 30, or even two, strikes me as uncommon.

Their idea obviously is to reward conference champions.  Every system will have issues.  They COULD just go with the 12 top ranked teams, it'd be simple, but they would have the G5 issue to start.  And yes, we could see a year where three "major" conference champions are 9-4 and two G5 teams are 13-0.  And of course the conferences are in a state of flux now anyway.

My guess is the people who come up with this stuff are reasonably bright, but it's a committee, with competing agenda and requirements.
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Re: Ranking CFP era performance
« Reply #32 on: March 18, 2023, 04:56:29 PM »
College Football Playoff expansion: How a 12-team field would have looked in each of last eight seasons - CBSSports.com

Here are two recent years with only one SEC team in a 12 teamer.

2015 season

Byes (Top-ranked conference champions)
1. Clemson
2. Alabama
3. Michigan State
4. Oklahoma
Rest of field (x-conference champion)
5. Iowa
6. Stanford (x)
7. Ohio State
8. Notre Dame
9. Florida State
10. North Carolina
11. TCU
12. Houston (x)

2016 season

Byes (Top-ranked conference champions)
1. Alabama
2. Clemson
3. Washington
4. Penn State
Rest of field (x-conference champion)
5. Ohio State
6. Michigan
7. Oklahoma (x)
8. Wisconsin
9. USC
10. Colorado
11. Florida State
12. Western Michigan (x)



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Re: Ranking CFP era performance
« Reply #33 on: March 18, 2023, 05:07:38 PM »
The SEC and Big Ten are about to go to 16 teams. Conference talk is becoming pretty meaningless. It's like arguing about the AFC v. the NFC. People do it, but mainly because it is something to talk about.
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Re: Ranking CFP era performance
« Reply #34 on: March 18, 2023, 05:50:18 PM »
It's obviously all about Notre Dame getting a bid every season

even stronger God presence than the SEC
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Re: Ranking CFP era performance
« Reply #35 on: March 18, 2023, 10:58:32 PM »
Quote from: Cincydawg on March 18, 2023, 04:44:49 PM
One year in 30, or even two, strikes me as uncommon.

That was just off the top of my head.  
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If we held the P5 on a certain plane, they should simply have the top 11 teams + 1 G5.  If your champ isn't in the top 11, being a conference on that top plane, then tough shit.  
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Re: Ranking CFP era performance
« Reply #36 on: March 18, 2023, 11:02:21 PM »
but, P5 conference champs aren't always top 11

especially going forward with the Big 12 and PAC
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Re: Ranking CFP era performance
« Reply #37 on: March 18, 2023, 11:06:06 PM »
Right.
Tough shit.  Have a better champ.  You're on the same plane as the other P5, earn it.
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Re: Ranking CFP era performance
« Reply #38 on: March 19, 2023, 07:10:00 AM »
If the past is any guide, the SEC will have one rep in the playoff more often than four.
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Re: Ranking CFP era performance
« Reply #39 on: March 19, 2023, 08:17:45 AM »
Quote from: FearlessF on March 18, 2023, 05:50:18 PM
It's obviously all about Notre Dame getting a bid every season

even stronger God presence than the SEC
Somebody take a Bible belt to this man
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Re: Ranking CFP era performance
« Reply #40 on: March 19, 2023, 08:20:48 AM »
Quote from: OrangeAfroMan on March 18, 2023, 04:24:35 PM
If the 12-ranked team gets a bye, due to being one of the top 4 conference champs, it'll all need to be blown up, once again. 
The people who come up with this stuff aren't bright.  And if they are bright, they're not knowledgeable.  It's as if possessing both qualities isn't an option.
Their idea is a hundred times better than yours, so if they aren't very bright, then that doesn't say much for yourself. 
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Re: Ranking CFP era performance
« Reply #41 on: March 19, 2023, 08:57:46 AM »
I think if we look back over the past 20 years we'd find ND NOT getting a bid much of the time, and they can never get a bye.

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