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Topic: #19 Purdue (4-3, 6-4) at #4 Ohio State(7-0, 9-1) Post Game

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MaximumSam

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Re: Purdue (4-2, 6-3) @ #5 Ohio State(6-0)(8-1)
« Reply #28 on: November 09, 2021, 04:36:12 PM »
A big game from Bell could get him on the Heisman short list.

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Re: Purdue (4-2, 6-3) @ #5 Ohio State(6-0)(8-1)
« Reply #29 on: November 09, 2021, 05:07:16 PM »
A big game from Bell could get him on the Heisman short list.
He had a whale of a game vs Iowa and MSU. If he does it again vs OSU- he absolutely deserves to be on that list. 

He’s a technician and amazing route runner. Nice size and great hands and ball skills to boot. Only thing he’s missing is that blazing 4.3 speed. If he had that- he’d be a top 5 pick in this upcoming draft. 

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Re: Purdue (4-2, 6-3) @ #5 Ohio State(6-0)(8-1)
« Reply #30 on: November 10, 2021, 11:11:29 PM »
As I've said since realizing very early in his career that Bell was a special player, he's Reggie Wayne.

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Re: Purdue (4-2, 6-3) @ #5 Ohio State(6-0)(8-1)
« Reply #31 on: November 11, 2021, 01:09:58 AM »
A big game from Bell could get him on the Heisman short list.
A big game, and a win, would. Paul Hornung (Bell) will never win the Heisman, again.

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Re: Purdue (4-2, 6-3) @ #5 Ohio State(6-0)(8-1)
« Reply #32 on: November 12, 2021, 08:08:46 AM »
Why has Ohio State been struggling so mightily in the Red Zone? The answer, as with most issues in football, can be found in the trenches. Ohio State has been celebrating the versatility of this group of talented offensive linemen. We can move them all around, depending on injuries, and still have five competent linemen ready for any game, or situation. This sounds great in theory, and it does make the line ALMOST immune, to the normal injuries that plague most other team’s offensive lines. However, there is a hidden cost to this strategy, no player on the line is a second year player, at his specific position. Each position on the line requires a very specific skill set, they are not interchangeable pieces, even if it is convenient for Ohio State to treat them that way, this season. This is a very good group of athletes, but none are actually very experienced at what they are being specifically asked to do.  This shows up in the Red Zone.

Have you noticed that in the competitive games, when it is third or fourth, and short, that this line can’t look each other in the eye, and get the “push” (move the defensive line backwards), needed to force the issue, and get the first down? These are large, strong, big guys - it isn’t because they are weak, they have trouble coordinating, since everyone is new at the position they are actually playing. There are other issues contributing to Ohio State’s Red Zone troubles, like the natural adjustment of defenses to spread offenses (teams drop eight into coverage). I think the answer is to play these guys where they are now, and understand the real cost of moving them around (they can’t be an experts at their positions, with no experience).

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Re: Purdue (4-2, 6-3) @ #5 Ohio State(6-0)(8-1)
« Reply #33 on: November 12, 2021, 08:12:35 AM »
It's football,don't over think it. If they're talented and coached right just apply the fundamentals/mechanics and move forward.When Ed Warriner was O-Line coach they plucked TEs & DLs and made them fit,and it worked - forget which ones
“The trouble with the rat race is that even if you win, you're still a rat.”― Lily Tomlin

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Re: Purdue (4-2, 6-3) @ #5 Ohio State(6-0)(8-1)
« Reply #34 on: November 12, 2021, 08:13:07 AM »
A big game, and a win, would. Paul Hornung (Bell) will never win the Heisman, again.
I dunno - there is no one that is really running away with this thing. A great player on a decent team might get the job done. Feels like voters really waiting around for someone to tell them who to vote for.

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Re: Purdue (4-2, 6-3) @ #5 Ohio State(6-0)(8-1)
« Reply #35 on: November 12, 2021, 08:19:00 AM »
IMO they have to quit handing the award to who they think is the best QB.Because usually that one is surrounded by the most talent so prolly the product of the system and not the best player in CFB
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Re: Purdue (4-2, 6-3) @ #5 Ohio State(6-0)(8-1)
« Reply #36 on: November 12, 2021, 08:21:49 AM »
I dunno - there is no one that is really running away with this thing. A great player on a decent team might get the job done. Feels like voters really waiting around for someone to tell them who to vote for.
Exactly! Voters are waiting for ESPN to decide which SEC player to get behind and promote. 

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Re: Purdue (4-2, 6-3) @ #5 Ohio State(6-0)(8-1)
« Reply #37 on: November 12, 2021, 08:29:19 AM »
It's football,don't over think it. If they're talented and coached right just apply the fundamentals/mechanics and move forward.When Ed Warriner was O-Line coach they plucked TEs & DLs and made them fit,and it worked - forget which ones

How has not overthinking it been working out? This is an offensive line that is talked about, as being among the best in the game, yet we have no running game at all, against decent defenses. Being lucky enough to have TreVeyon Henderson, is not the same as having a running game. How would an average talent level B1G back do behind this line?

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Re: Purdue (4-2, 6-3) @ #5 Ohio State(6-0)(8-1)
« Reply #38 on: November 12, 2021, 08:45:16 AM »
The Heisman voters like it better when 2-3-4 heralded candidates are "in the news" often, and it becomes a "race".  We don't have that this year, yet, obviously it's usually an offensive back of one sort or the other.  Who would you vote for at this point?

I think this game turns into a blow out.

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Re: Purdue (4-2, 6-3) @ #5 Ohio State(6-0)(8-1)
« Reply #39 on: November 12, 2021, 08:56:28 AM »
How has not overthinking it been working out? This is an offensive line that is talked about, as being among the best in the game, yet we have no running game at all, against decent defenses. Being lucky enough to have TreVeyon Henderson, is not the same as having a running game. How would an average talent level B1G back do behind this line?
Hard to tell they throw alot
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Re: Purdue (4-2, 6-3) @ #5 Ohio State(6-0)(8-1)
« Reply #40 on: November 12, 2021, 10:15:23 AM »
IMO they have to quit handing the award to who they think is the best QB.Because usually that one is surrounded by the most talent so prolly the product of the system and not the best player in CFB
they were ready to hand it pre-season to either Spencer Rattler or DJ Ugilelia (idk how the f to spell that kids name) - BUT - Rattler got benched and it turns out DJ and Clemson suck.

They need to think outside the box more. That year they awarded it to Woodson was awesome- but they've had other chances to go with best player and they dropped the ball. Suh got screwed in 2009. That should've been his trophy.

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Re: Purdue (4-2, 6-3) @ #5 Ohio State(6-0)(8-1)
« Reply #41 on: November 12, 2021, 10:24:18 AM »
We all know it is a "flashy" award in most years.  Somebody like a Manziel posts a couple incredible highlights and wins.

It doesn't mean anything to me personally.  I do enjoy the Nissan commercials.


 

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