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medinabuckeye1

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Re: Probable Playoff Teams
« Reply #350 on: December 05, 2019, 04:47:45 PM »
Quote from: Cincydawg on December 05, 2019, 04:27:47 PM
Having recently played there is probably a modest advantage, I agree (even if you lost).  I'm just pondering why it helps OSU to be moved to Arizona when ATL is relatively close, even if it's much closer for probable opponents.
As an Ohio State fan, Atlanta is better for me than Glendale because Atlanta is drivable and a pretty easy flight to get.  That, however, is not the question.  


I'm not entirely positive of this but the terminology that I remember hearing is that #1 cannot be put at a "geographic disadvantage".  That is a relative term and it depends who the opponent is.  

Thus, a hypothetical #1 Ohio State would not play UGA or Clemson in Atlanta nor Utah in Glendale because UGA/Clemson are substantially closer to Atlanta while Utah is substantially closer to Glendale.  LSU is a closer call because Baton Rouge is closer to both Atlanta and Glendale.  
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Re: Probable Playoff Teams
« Reply #351 on: December 05, 2019, 05:32:59 PM »
Quote from: medinabuckeye1 on December 05, 2019, 04:47:45 PM
As an Ohio State fan, Atlanta is better for me than Glendale because Atlanta is drivable and a pretty easy flight to get.  That, however, is not the question. 


I'm not entirely positive of this but the terminology that I remember hearing is that #1 cannot be put at a "geographic disadvantage".  That is a relative term and it depends who the opponent is. 

Thus, a hypothetical #1 Ohio State would not play UGA or Clemson in Atlanta nor Utah in Glendale because UGA/Clemson are substantially closer to Atlanta while Utah is substantially closer to Glendale.  LSU is a closer call because Baton Rouge is closer to both Atlanta and Glendale.
I think you're right about the terminology.
Glendale might give LSU the same slight distance advantage that Atlanta would, but Atlanta is far more familiar territory for LSU and its fan-base than Glendale is.  The coon-asses would feel far freeer to exercise their coon-assery in Georgia than in Arizona.
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Re: Probable Playoff Teams
« Reply #352 on: December 05, 2019, 06:15:50 PM »
Interesting tid-bit:  Ohio State has the most Fiesta Bowl appearances, all-time (including twice in the past 4 years).
8  OSU
7  Penn St
6  Arizona St, Nebraska
5  Oklahoma, ND
4  FSU, Pitt, Miami

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Penn State is 7-0. 
Miami is 0-4.
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« Reply #353 on: December 05, 2019, 06:21:04 PM »
Fun? Fact about Sun Devil Stadium (pre-reno):
In 2007, engineers realized the stadium's concrete base was buckling due to the rusting of structural steel supporting the foundation. Stadium designers had neglected to waterproof the structure when it was built, assuming a stadium in the desert would not need waterproof concrete. However, cleaning/maintenance crews for the Sun Devils and Cardinals hosed down the seats after every game, introducing substantially more water to the stadium than the designers had envisioned.
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Re: Probable Playoff Teams
« Reply #354 on: December 05, 2019, 06:49:14 PM »
Quote from: OrangeAfroMan on December 05, 2019, 06:21:04 PM
Fun? Fact about Sun Devil Stadium (pre-reno):
In 2007, engineers realized the stadium's concrete base was buckling due to the rusting of structural steel supporting the foundation. Stadium designers had neglected to waterproof the structure when it was built, assuming a stadium in the desert would not need waterproof concrete. However, cleaning/maintenance crews for the Sun Devils and Cardinals hosed down the seats after every game, introducing substantially more water to the stadium than the designers had envisioned.
Designers and users talk to each other before the design is finalized?  Nah!
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Re: Probable Playoff Teams
« Reply #355 on: December 05, 2019, 07:08:51 PM »
I live 7 miles from University of State Farm Stadium.  None of the recent Fiesta Bowls have made me really want to go.  

I do like the renovated Sun Devil Stadium ~53,000 seats.  
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Re: Probable Playoff Teams
« Reply #356 on: December 05, 2019, 09:35:37 PM »
Quote from: OrangeAfroMan on December 05, 2019, 07:08:51 PM
I live 7 miles from University of State Farm Stadium.  None of the recent Fiesta Bowls have made me really want to go. 

I do like the renovated Sun Devil Stadium ~53,000 seats. 
When I was there in 2003 I thought that Sun Devil Stadium was beautiful. 
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Re: Probable Playoff Teams
« Reply #357 on: December 06, 2019, 06:47:50 AM »
I tend to think location of the game is but a small factor perhaps with an exception or two.  The eventual NC game of course is going to bounce around the country anyway.

I would prefer to see Utah in it if the favorites all win over OU just because they are different and new.
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Re: Probable Playoff Teams
« Reply #358 on: December 06, 2019, 11:03:05 AM »
Quote from: medinabuckeye1 on December 05, 2019, 09:35:37 PM
When I was there in 2003 I thought that Sun Devil Stadium was beautiful.

I hate the climb up the "mountain" to get there. I am going to be there on Saturday for a couple of the Arizona High School State Championship game. 

The AIA treats the non-working officials to one of the suites. 
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Re: Probable Playoff Teams
« Reply #359 on: December 06, 2019, 12:30:17 PM »
The highest level entertainment for most of us would be all upsets in the CGs.  That is very unlikely of course, so I won't try and lay out the probabilities if that happened, but it would be epic.  Perhaps we'd still have the top three plus UGA in the group.  Meh, not as entertaining as I thought.
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Re: Probable Playoff Teams
« Reply #360 on: December 06, 2019, 12:47:08 PM »
the Big 12 would be in
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Re: Probable Playoff Teams
« Reply #361 on: December 06, 2019, 10:59:06 PM »
Well, Utah is back in the P12CG which is good for the Buckeyes because the Utes are the easiest potential CFP semi-final match-up. 
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Re: Probable Playoff Teams
« Reply #362 on: December 07, 2019, 06:02:54 AM »
Quote from: medinabuckeye1 on December 06, 2019, 10:59:06 PM
Well, Utah is back in the P12CG which is good for the Buckeyes because the Utes are the easiest potential CFP semi-final match-up.

And, they're out.
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Re: Probable Playoff Teams
« Reply #363 on: December 07, 2019, 09:31:02 AM »
so much for leaning towards the better defensive team
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