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utee94

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Re: Probable Playoff Teams
« Reply #308 on: December 04, 2019, 01:49:34 PM »
Quote from: FearlessF on December 04, 2019, 12:54:21 PM
absolutely NOT

especially for the PAC or Big 12


Quote from: Kris60 on December 04, 2019, 12:57:53 PM
Yeah, that’s what I was afraid of.

Oh yeah you better believe those two conferences would scream bloody murder. Well, the B12 would since it's guaranteed a 1-loss champ.  The PAC would if Utah wins but gets left out for an SEC non-champ.

Would get pretty ugly IMO.  And would lead almost immediately to playoff expansion to 8.
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Re: Probable Playoff Teams
« Reply #309 on: December 04, 2019, 01:50:10 PM »
I think folks here mostly are musing, and of course anticipating the inevitable conspiracy notions IF the Dawgs win.

I doubt anyone here thinks the Zebs get together before any game and "conspire" how best to throw it (aside from perhaps some situations where the betters have a hold on them, which COULD have happened in the past, perhaps).

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Re: Probable Playoff Teams
« Reply #310 on: December 04, 2019, 01:52:34 PM »
Quote from: OrangeAfroMan on December 04, 2019, 01:47:05 PM
Hooray, conspiracy theorists! 
The only people that would take a dive on the SEC CG are fat and rich and wearing suits.  Not the coaches, not the players, and no the refs.  Sheesh.
I’m not a conspiracy theorist. I’m actually trying to squash that. But I’m afraid there is no way for UGA, who is actually a hell of a team, to win without those theories being floated.
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Re: Probable Playoff Teams
« Reply #311 on: December 04, 2019, 01:53:46 PM »
I'd prefer Utah get in if only because whoever they face probably won't hang 50 on them.  If OU gets in, they'll have as good a chance of winning as any of the other fringe playoff teams, but I won't be confident in their defense holding up.  If Baylor winds up in the playoff, I'll expect them to get thumped.


Fair or not, those are my thoughts on the fringe trio.
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Re: Probable Playoff Teams
« Reply #312 on: December 04, 2019, 01:56:32 PM »
Quote from: Kris60 on December 04, 2019, 01:52:34 PM
I’m not a conspiracy theorist. I’m actually trying to squash that. But I’m afraid there is no way for UGA, who is actually a hell of a team, to win without those theories being floated.
Then it reflects poorly on the college football culture, not you as an individual.  

To orchestrate something like that would be absurd.  
For it to remain a secret would be absurd.
For it to not be obvious would be absurd...and if there was even a whiff of it happening, the committee would drop both teams below 4th, and rightfully so.


LSU and Georgia are going to play a football game and one of them is going to play better than the other one and end up with more points than the other.  That's about as interesting as it should be and as interesting as it really is.
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Re: Probable Playoff Teams
« Reply #313 on: December 04, 2019, 01:56:55 PM »
I hadn't thought about Georgia losing and potentially dropping below Florida.  Hello, Sugar Bowl!
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Re: Probable Playoff Teams
« Reply #314 on: December 04, 2019, 02:05:14 PM »
Quote from: Cincydawg on December 04, 2019, 09:37:29 AM
Funny, I was idly thinking this yesterday.  I don't think it's a real scenario in the real world, but it would be in the interest of the SEC obviously.

IF UGA wins, I bet this becomes a story.

The key will be watching the officiating. A few critical calls in UGA's favorite and it will feed the story.
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Re: Probable Playoff Teams
« Reply #315 on: December 04, 2019, 02:09:38 PM »
Every game will have calls perceived to be favorable to one side or the other (Alabama-Auburn).  I think it was the UGA-UF game where a "catch" by a UGA receiver looked on review as a bobble, but it was not reversed.  This will feed into the conspiracy notions, they will happen even if not many calls went UGA's way.

I expect LSU to win comfortably myself, so this is discussion of the unlikely, but not impossible.
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Re: Probable Playoff Teams
« Reply #316 on: December 04, 2019, 02:21:11 PM »
Quote from: OrangeAfroMan on December 04, 2019, 01:47:05 PM
Hooray, conspiracy theorists! 
The only people that would take a dive on the SEC CG are fat and rich and wearing suits.  Not the coaches, not the players, and no the refs.  Sheesh.
the refs are paid by fat rich suits
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Re: Probable Playoff Teams
« Reply #317 on: December 04, 2019, 02:25:59 PM »
Quote from: Riffraft on December 04, 2019, 02:05:14 PM
The key will be watching the officiating. A few critical calls in UGA's favorite and it will feed the story.
There doesn’t even need to be controversial calls go in UGA’s favor.  When people go into watching a game with that mindset it becomes a self-fulfilling prophecy.  They start perceiving LSU is getting away with holding calls, grabbing wide receivers, etc.  Maybe I just keep bad company.

I post on WVU’s scout board too and there’s a small minority who can’t handle disappointment and basically blame every result they don’t like on people with nefarious intentions.  But there are other people like them who exist out there.  A UGA win and you will hear their voices in different places.
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Re: Probable Playoff Teams
« Reply #318 on: December 04, 2019, 02:37:21 PM »
Quote from: OrangeAfroMan on December 03, 2019, 09:19:18 PM
Conspiracy theory:  Utah wore OSU-adjacent uniforms in an attempt to subliminally seem better in the committee's minds while they discuss the playoff teams and watch highlights.
Alternate conspiracy theory: There are three Pac-12-affiliated members of the Selection Committee, none of whom have to recuse themselves when Utah is discussed, while there is only one Big 12-affiliated member, and he has to recuse himself when OU is discussed.  In addition, Frank Beamer has to recuse himself, as his son Shane is an OU coach.

Rob Mullens (chairman), Oregon athletic director
Paola Boivin, former The Arizona Republic reporter
Ronnie Lott3, former Southern California defensive back

Joe Castiglione, Oklahoma athletic director

Frank Beamer, former Virginia Tech head coach
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Re: Probable Playoff Teams
« Reply #319 on: December 04, 2019, 02:56:30 PM »
Quote from: CWSooner on December 04, 2019, 02:37:21 PM
Alternate conspiracy theory: There are three Pac-12-affiliated members of the Selection Committee, none of whom have to recuse themselves when Utah is discussed, while there is only one Big 12-affiliated member, and he has to recuse himself when OU is discussed.  In addition, Frank Beamer has to recuse himself, as his son Shane is an OU coach.

Rob Mullens (chairman) Oregon athletic director
Paola Boivin Former The Arizona Republic reporter
Ronnie Lott Former Southern California defensive back

Joe Castiglione Oklahoma athletic director

Frank Beamer Former Virginia Tech head coach

if this is the case, then the Big 12 will instruct the refs to make sure Baylor wins
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Re: Probable Playoff Teams
« Reply #320 on: December 04, 2019, 03:20:54 PM »
Each fan base has a lot of "members" who see ref bias in just about every close game.  Oddly, they rarely notice when some marginal call goes their way.
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Re: Probable Playoff Teams
« Reply #321 on: December 04, 2019, 03:39:30 PM »
Quote from: FearlessF on December 04, 2019, 02:56:30 PM
if this is the case, then the Big 12 will instruct the refs to make sure Baylor wins
Nah, B12 knows about helmet status. 

If we want to float a conspiracy theory about officiating, we should suspect the B12 refs of throwing the game in OU's favor, to make sure the conference puts forth a nice shiny helmet for the committee to review, rather than a tiny church school with a soiled history.

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