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Cincydawg

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Re: Probable Playoff Teams
« Reply #182 on: December 01, 2019, 12:59:57 PM »
I am of the opinion that conference champions should be given heavier weight than the Committee appears to do.

So, if you lose the CG and are 12-1, to me it means more than winning after having lost in the regular season.  But in the case of LSU and OSU I think they earned that exception during the regular season.
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Re: Probable Playoff Teams
« Reply #183 on: December 01, 2019, 01:00:29 PM »
Quote from: OrangeAfroMan on December 01, 2019, 11:50:15 AM
Why does it bother you a CCG loser gets in the playoff?  While at the same time, I'm certain you'd have no problem with a team that lost to a worse team earlier in the season winning their CCG getting in......


Why do people have such a hard time understanding the CCG is precisely one game that just happens to be at the end of the season???
Basically the same reason they say “well they’re playing much better now than they were then”

In any case, the set of teams to be ranked that matters doesn’t exist yet. Until then, castles made of sand and such.
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Re: Probable Playoff Teams
« Reply #184 on: December 01, 2019, 01:01:52 PM »
Quote from: Cincydawg on December 01, 2019, 12:59:57 PM
I am of the opinion that conference champions should be given heavier weight than the Committee appears to do.

So, if you lose the CG and are 12-1, to me it means more than winning after having lost in the regular season.  But in the case of LSU and OSU I think they earned that exception during the regular season.
Have we seen much to say the committee doesn’t weigh them?

We’ve seen two non-conference champs, and each had a pretty decent case or a lack of better options. 
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Re: Probable Playoff Teams
« Reply #185 on: December 01, 2019, 01:03:03 PM »
Well, I personally would choose an 11-2 conference champ over a 11-1 at large most of the time.  The committee has shown zero examples where they have really weighed winning your conference as probative.
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Re: Probable Playoff Teams
« Reply #186 on: December 01, 2019, 01:10:16 PM »
Quote from: OrangeAfroMan on December 01, 2019, 12:29:56 PM
It's hard to believe this is an actual thought by a human adult.
If you'd like to discuss something, please try and do so without the condescending douchbaggery. TiA.
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Re: Probable Playoff Teams
« Reply #187 on: December 01, 2019, 01:16:14 PM »
Quote from: Brutus Buckeye on December 01, 2019, 01:10:16 PM
If you'd like to discuss something, please try and do so without the condescending douchbaggery. TiA.
I have to agree. I like OAM and agree with a lot of his thoughts but this constant way he has of talking down to people and then clutching his pearls when they go on the attack is getting old.

It’s possible to disagree and be civil.
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Re: Probable Playoff Teams
« Reply #188 on: December 01, 2019, 01:24:15 PM »
By definition the CCG is a bigger game than some random game during the regular season. It is a post season game, and quite literally has a Conference Title riding on the outcome.
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Re: Probable Playoff Teams
« Reply #189 on: December 01, 2019, 01:27:06 PM »
Conference champ games are simply one more game to put on the resume and add to the eye test - win or lose

if all things are equal, give the conference champ the nod

regarding one loss teams - many times the one loss being in the champ games is a better loss than the others, sometimes not

shouldn't be penalized for the good loss being later in the season, but it seems to be the case
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Re: Probable Playoff Teams
« Reply #190 on: December 01, 2019, 01:29:14 PM »
I enjoy the condescending douchebaggery myself, but for an unusual reason I suspect.

Douche is French for shower.

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Re: Probable Playoff Teams
« Reply #191 on: December 01, 2019, 01:42:20 PM »
Quote from: FearlessF on December 01, 2019, 12:46:36 PM
well, the committee has encouraged this thought

a group of hopefully intelligent adults
Even the most intelligent people are often slaves to traditional, group-think.  Unfortunately.
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Re: Probable Playoff Teams
« Reply #192 on: December 01, 2019, 01:43:41 PM »
Quote from: Brutus Buckeye on December 01, 2019, 01:24:15 PM
By definition the CCG is a bigger game than some random game during the regular season. It is a post season game, and quite literally has a Conference Title riding on the outcome.
You say this, and I'm sure the idea is echoed by many...yet at the same time, we all agree that CCGs are money-grabs.  
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Re: Probable Playoff Teams
« Reply #193 on: December 01, 2019, 01:51:10 PM »
Whether they are money grabs or not is irrelevant, to me.  
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Re: Probable Playoff Teams
« Reply #194 on: December 01, 2019, 01:52:47 PM »
money grabs like every other college football game

the Conference champ games are better competition than most

might not be the best opponent each team has played all season, but usually in the top 3

as a fan and/or a person trying to decide the top 4 regarding a playoff, the conference champ games have added value

one more data point is better than not
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Re: Probable Playoff Teams
« Reply #195 on: December 01, 2019, 01:54:35 PM »
We don't need a B1G CCG to know who is the best. We already know it.
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