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OrangeAfroMan

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Re: Probable Playoff Teams
« Reply #168 on: December 01, 2019, 02:16:43 AM »
Quote from: CWSooner on December 01, 2019, 01:56:09 AM
I wasn't responding to one of your posts, or even to someone quoting one of your posts.
But you have said on many occasions that all the voters look at is W/L record.
Then in the last day or so you have said or implied with a list of ranked teams from over a decade ago that it's all about the helmets.
So make up your mind.  It's either all about the W/L record or it is not.  Which is it?
They're not mutually exclusive.
If there's 5 one-loss teams, they're not all going to be tied for 4th, are they?  
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Re: Probable Playoff Teams
« Reply #169 on: December 01, 2019, 06:55:45 AM »
So, that cleared up the situation a good bit, I think.

LSU should be heavily favored over UGA, same for Clemson over UVA, and OSU over Wisconsin.  Then we have the Utah/OU/Baylor group (and possibly LSU if they get upset).  My guess is Utah, which would be "new" and different.  After all this, we're down to the final two games for most teams.
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Re: Probable Playoff Teams
« Reply #170 on: December 01, 2019, 07:32:58 AM »
Quote from: medinabuckeye1 on November 30, 2019, 04:47:22 PM
Exactly.
Back in 2014 Baylor missed the first CFP with a weak OOC slate. They apparently learned nothing, thus year's OOC:Stephen F Austin
Texas San Antonio
Rice

If Baylor ends up 12-1 and out of the CFP they have nobody to blame but themselves.
So this is interesting because it asks for a kind of silly level of foresight.

At year's start, did anybody think we'd be saying the word Baylor and playoff together even by the middle of October? Nope. They're a program two years removed from 1-11. It's a program that won more than four games once in the first 14 years of Big 12 play (they went 5-6 in 2005 and finished in the bottom three). 

The 2014 team was more of an issue, but if you're a building program, why go with 10 P5 games when it's much MUCH more likely to hurt your bowl chances than your playoff chances?

I suppose you're right, the won't have anyone to blame but themselves. They were the ones that actually got to 12-1.
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Re: Probable Playoff Teams
« Reply #171 on: December 01, 2019, 07:36:02 AM »
I don't so much mind that Baylor scheduled that slate OOC five years ago, but it's going to hurt them now if there's a decision to be made.

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Re: Probable Playoff Teams
« Reply #172 on: December 01, 2019, 07:42:13 AM »
The "good news" is that I think the top three teams are really really good, and that competition should be epic.  Number 4 might be a couple steps down from them.

So, the number 1 slot is important this season.
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Re: Probable Playoff Teams
« Reply #173 on: December 01, 2019, 07:56:16 AM »
Quote from: Cincydawg on December 01, 2019, 06:55:45 AM
So, that cleared up the situation a good bit, I think.

LSU should be heavily favored over UGA, same for Clemson over UVA, and OSU over Wisconsin.  Then we have the Utah/OU/Baylor group (and possibly LSU/OSU/Clemson if they get upset).  My guess is Utah, which would be "new" and different.  After all this, we're down to the final two games for most teams.

FIFY
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Re: Probable Playoff Teams
« Reply #174 on: December 01, 2019, 08:10:06 AM »
I THINK if Clemson is upset they are out.  Ohio State is probably in anyway, but that would not put Wisconsin in the playoff, nor would a Clemson loss put UVA in the playoff.

An LSU upset would put UGA in the playoff, probably along with LSU.

So, my point which I mangled is that UGA is in the playoff with a win, but Wisconsin/UVA are not.  That probably would shut out Utah/OU/Baylor.

Mebbe.
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Re: Probable Playoff Teams
« Reply #175 on: December 01, 2019, 09:55:22 AM »
Quote from: bayareabadger on December 01, 2019, 07:32:58 AM
I suppose you're right, the won't have anyone to blame but themselves. They were the ones that actually got to 12-1.
if you're scheduling to get to a bowl, then be happy if you are left out at #5 or #6.  Your scheduling worked and it's one of the reasons you're 12-1
don't blame the committee of the lack of shine on your helmet
fair is fair
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Re: Probable Playoff Teams
« Reply #176 on: December 01, 2019, 10:00:37 AM »
Possible upsets:

Clemson - OUT
Ohio State - probably in
LSU - probably in
Utah - out

I don't like it that a CG loser gets into the playoff, but in the above two situations, I think an exception is merited.
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Re: Probable Playoff Teams
« Reply #177 on: December 01, 2019, 11:50:15 AM »
Why does it bother you a CCG loser gets in the playoff?  While at the same time, I'm certain you'd have no problem with a team that lost to a worse team earlier in the season winning their CCG getting in......


Why do people have such a hard time understanding the CCG is precisely one game that just happens to be at the end of the season???
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Re: Probable Playoff Teams
« Reply #178 on: December 01, 2019, 12:12:01 PM »
It is more than one game. Basically a Conference Tournament, with only two participants.
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Re: Probable Playoff Teams
« Reply #179 on: December 01, 2019, 12:29:05 PM »
Quote from: Brutus Buckeye on December 01, 2019, 12:12:01 PM
It is more than one game. Basically a Conference Tournament, with only two participants.
It's quite literally one game.  It is a game vs a good opponent, so there's that.


I don't accept a 12-0 team losing its CCG mattering more than losing a game in October.  The overall seasons are then equal.  We set it up for each conference, with unbalanced schedules, to crown a champion in the least valid way possible.  The answer isn't to shrug our shoulders and just go along with it.
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Re: Probable Playoff Teams
« Reply #180 on: December 01, 2019, 12:29:56 PM »
Quote from: Brutus Buckeye on December 01, 2019, 12:12:01 PM
It is more than one game. Basically a Conference Tournament, with only two participants.
It's hard to believe this is an actual thought by a human adult.
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Re: Probable Playoff Teams
« Reply #181 on: December 01, 2019, 12:46:36 PM »
well, the committee has encouraged this thought

a group of hopefully intelligent adults
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