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medinabuckeye1

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Re: Probable Playoff Teams
« Reply #154 on: November 30, 2019, 08:54:43 AM »
Quote from: Cincydawg on November 30, 2019, 04:47:13 AM
Had Baylor and/or Minnesota looked better against lame competition, they might get ranked higher.  This doesn't have to be about helmet, it can simple reflect performance.

Take the names out and look at the actual records of each team.
Exactly. 


Instead of blaming "helmet" or some vague conspiracy let's be honest about resumes. Baylor and Minnesota had weak OOC's and way too many too-close wins. That would hurt any team, irrespective of their relative "helmet".
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Re: Probable Playoff Teams
« Reply #155 on: November 30, 2019, 09:18:33 AM »
Very true.  
But, just as Clemson gets a free pass on its high school schedule and Bama is still seeking an impressive "best win", part of helmet status is how ticky-tack the committee is about that.  You get a free pass or you don't.  Your helmet dictates (very often) how many 4 and 5-star kids you have.  


Even if Minnesota was 11-0 and Alabama was 7-4, the Tide would be favored if they played because of the perceived talent disparity of the rosters.  That plays into it.
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Re: Probable Playoff Teams
« Reply #156 on: November 30, 2019, 09:45:39 AM »
If all three OSUs win today?
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Re: Probable Playoff Teams
« Reply #157 on: November 30, 2019, 01:59:02 PM »
Then Harbaugh has to wear jeans in the bowl game.
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Re: Probable Playoff Teams
« Reply #158 on: November 30, 2019, 01:59:05 PM »
The way Georgia is playing today, I think we can pencil in LSU for the playoff with ink.
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Re: Probable Playoff Teams
« Reply #159 on: November 30, 2019, 03:58:40 PM »
Quote from: medinabuckeye1 on November 30, 2019, 08:54:43 AM
Exactly.

Instead of blaming "helmet" or some vague conspiracy let's be honest about resumes. Baylor and Minnesota had weak OOC's and way too many too-close wins. That would hurt any team, irrespective of their relative "helmet".
Furthermore, if helmetosity were the be-all, end-all, then Oklahoma would currently be ranked ahead of Utah.  So it appears that the pollsters, including the committee members, are taking record, strength of schedule, margin of victory, eyeball test, and helmet-status in producing the current rankings.
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Re: Probable Playoff Teams
« Reply #160 on: November 30, 2019, 04:02:13 PM »
Quote from: utee94 on November 29, 2019, 08:14:57 PM
I don't think they're surprised at all.  Have you read/heard/seen anything to suggest that?

I can't speak for Minnesota fans, the only one I know isGopherRock and he can certainly speak for himself.

But the Baylor fans I know aren't surprised when they get passed over/left out/dismissed.  They understand the way the system works.

They're not surprised, but they're certainly annoyed/angered/outraged by it.  Because they know there's nothing they can do about it.
The fans can't do anything about it, but the Baylor football program can.  Schedule better OOC opponents, including at least one P5 conference member.  And then beat them.
Same for Minnesota.
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Re: Probable Playoff Teams
« Reply #161 on: November 30, 2019, 04:47:22 PM »
Quote from: CWSooner on November 30, 2019, 04:02:13 PM
The fans can't do anything about it, but the Baylor football program can.  Schedule better OOC opponents, including at least one P5 conference member.  And then beat them.
Same for Minnesota.
Exactly.
Back in 2014 Baylor missed the first CFP with a weak OOC slate. They apparently learned nothing, thus year's OOC:Stephen F Austin
Texas San Antonio
Rice

If Baylor ends up 12-1 and out of the CFP they have nobody to blame but themselves. 
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Re: Probable Playoff Teams
« Reply #162 on: November 30, 2019, 06:38:45 PM »
true
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Re: Probable Playoff Teams
« Reply #163 on: November 30, 2019, 11:28:52 PM »
Which four teams go to the CFB Playoffs if the underdogs go 5-0 in the P5 CCGs?
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Re: Probable Playoff Teams
« Reply #164 on: December 01, 2019, 01:16:37 AM »
Quote from: Brutus Buckeye on November 30, 2019, 11:28:52 PM
Which four teams go to the CFB Playoffs if the underdogs go 5-0 in the P5 CCGs?
My guess is UGA, LSU, tOSU, and Baylor.

Also in the discussion:
11-2 Wisconsin, B1G Champ
11-2 Oregon, P12 Champ
12-1 Clemson 
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Re: Probable Playoff Teams
« Reply #165 on: December 01, 2019, 01:36:58 AM »
Quote from: CWSooner on November 30, 2019, 03:58:40 PM
Furthermore, if helmetosity were the be-all, end-all, 
To quote myself...,"That plays into it."


You construe that as "be-all, end-all"?  Cool.
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« Reply #166 on: December 01, 2019, 01:37:48 AM »
OSU and LSU are already in the playoff.  The rest are playing for the other 2 spots.
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Re: Probable Playoff Teams
« Reply #167 on: December 01, 2019, 01:56:09 AM »
Quote from: OrangeAfroMan on December 01, 2019, 01:36:58 AM
To quote myself...,"That plays into it."


You construe that as "be-all, end-all"?  Cool.
I wasn't responding to one of your posts, or even to someone quoting one of your posts.
But you have said on many occasions that all the voters look at is W/L record.
Then in the last day or so you have said or implied with a list of ranked teams from over a decade ago that it's all about the helmets.
So make up your mind.  It's either all about the W/L record or it is not.  Which is it?
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