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OrangeAfroMan

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Re: Post Your Top 10
« Reply #126 on: November 18, 2018, 09:24:50 PM »
1. Alabama
2. Clemson
3. Michigan
4. Notre Dame
5. Washington State
6. Georgia
7. LSU
8. West Virginia
9. Oklahoma
10. Ohio State
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Re: Post Your Top 10
« Reply #127 on: November 18, 2018, 09:41:31 PM »
I'm sick and tired of the limitations of the poll voters.  No, their polls don't matter, but it's a larger point.
WV loses yesterday, they drop in the polls.  Fine.  They fall right behind Texas in both polls.  Their win over the Horns 2 weeks ago is rendered meaningless.  
WV has one fewer loss than Texas, but the idiotic voters are slaves to WHEN you lose, still.  Why did WV and Texas bother playing their game????  Why have the last-second win?  Why go for two?  Two weeks later it's thrown out the window.  
Wait, you complain that the sheeple voters are slaves to total losses and just rank teams in order of their losses.
Then when they fail to follow that narrative, you complain they they are NOT slaves to total losses, and you invent some new reason to bash them and feel superior.
I find that... fascinating.

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Re: Post Your Top 10
« Reply #128 on: November 18, 2018, 09:46:01 PM »
And for my own personal opinion, I'd rank WVU ahead of Texas.  And it's not because of total losses and it's not really even because of H2H  I've just watched both teams play and I think WVU is a more complete team than Texas.  Just my opinion, obviously.

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« Reply #129 on: November 18, 2018, 11:14:43 PM »
Wait, you complain that the sheeple voters are slaves to total losses and just rank teams in order of their losses.
Then when they fail to follow that narrative, you complain they they are NOT slaves to total losses, and you invent some new reason to bash them and feel superior.
I find that... fascinating.
Thanks for injecting the "feel superior" bit in there.  Very cool.
Both things are true.  Being a slave to the number of losses when ranking teams is lazy.  WV and Texas play in the same conference and in it they play every other team.  Their schedules are nearly identical, WV has one fewer loss AND beat them h2h.   
So what we have here is a combination of things:
I'm vocal about h2h being overstated, and in this instance WV has it over Texas.
I'm vocal that ranking teams by number of losses is lazy.
I've seen them both play and think WV is better.  AND they beat UT.  AND they have fewer losses. 
So while each one of those individually isn't deterministic, all 3 together build a case.  A case the voters have ignored.  Their reason?  WHEN they lost.  Anywho, the committee is far less a slave to WHEN teams lose, thank god.
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Re: Post Your Top 10
« Reply #130 on: November 18, 2018, 11:17:32 PM »
Lulz.  You're welcome for the "feel superior" bit.  It was completely appropriate based on your long posting history.  If the shoe fits.


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« Reply #131 on: November 18, 2018, 11:33:04 PM »
1. Alabama
2. Clemson
3. Michigan
4. Notre Dame
5. Washington State
6. Georgia
7. LSU
8. West Virginia
9. Oklahoma
10. Ohio State
last week you had Texas at #9.
They win impressively over a solid Iowa State team and they're out?
just asking.....
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Re: Post Your Top 10
« Reply #132 on: November 19, 2018, 12:58:31 AM »
No, I forgot them.  They're still at 9, with OU at 10.  




It doesn't take much to feel superior to one of the poll voters.  Most wildlife are...you may even be as well.
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Re: Post Your Top 10
« Reply #133 on: November 19, 2018, 08:03:47 AM »
Ohio State is one better thrown pass from being about 17th.

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« Reply #134 on: November 19, 2018, 12:16:14 PM »
that can probably be said about multiple teams, above and below #17
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« Reply #135 on: November 19, 2018, 12:48:23 PM »
Army and Pitt became the 52nd and 53rd teams to be ranked this season, setting a record for the most ranked teams since the poll expanded to 25 in 1989. The previous high was 51 teams ranked in 2008.

This doesn't sound lazy.............
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Re: Post Your Top 10
« Reply #136 on: November 19, 2018, 01:05:26 PM »
No, I forgot them.  They're still at 9, with OU at 10.  




It doesn't take much to feel superior to one of the poll voters.  Most wildlife are...you may even be as well.
Maybe you should take more than 5 minutes when doing this.

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Re: Post Your Top 10
« Reply #137 on: November 19, 2018, 01:07:22 PM »
My perception is that there are 5-7 very good to great teams this year.  Then there are 5-7 teams with pretty glaring issues, and the remainder of the ranked teams are not very good.

I don't know is this is unusual this year but it seems like the gap between top 5 or so and 10-25 is larger than normal.  I'm not sure Ohio State would beat any top 20 team neutral field right now 4 times out of 10.


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« Reply #138 on: November 19, 2018, 01:56:16 PM »
you're not big on Urban's crew at this point are you?
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Re: Post Your Top 10
« Reply #139 on: November 19, 2018, 02:11:33 PM »
Nope, something is seriously ailing that Buckeye team like I have not seen before.  Losing Bosa was a hit, but it should not be this much of a hit.  I'd like a count of how many 65 yard plus plays they have allowed on defense this year versus any year in the past 20 and how much rushing yardage they have versus any past year.


 

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