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Topic: Playoffs! Did someone say Playoffs?

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Drew4UTk

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Re: Playoffs! Did someone say Playoffs?
« Reply #364 on: December 03, 2017, 01:21:53 PM »
there should be little doubt that Bama is at least one of the best four teams in the nation.   but... they didn't perform when they most needed to- and should have lost their position because of that one game.
however, they would destroy tOSU, and anyone else from the B10... PSU would stand the greatest chance against Bama, and they don't have an argument to play... Clemson is worthy, regardless of their terribly foul loss, and OU is playing as good as any of the other three.  
  • Georgia is going to be hard to stop.  their backfield is the best in the nation.  their starting 11 on D is the best starting 11 in the nation.  they're likely the team to beat by my reckoning.  
  • Clemson plays to whatever level they are required to play to... they lost to 'cuse, yeah- but it wasn't the rupture tOSU endured to both OU AND Iowa.  Their D is STOUT, and they have likely the best starting lines in the nation.
  • OU is playing as well as anyone on O, and have proven it's not a 'conference' thing by lighting up both TCU (x2) and tOSU's nationally ranked D's.  Their D is serviceable and enough to keep them in the game with the other three.
  • Bama may not have the best starting lines, nor the best starting O or D in the nation, but they are better than anyone below the top 6.   but to state the obvious, you could rotate three players on either side of the ball and they'd still have a better starting O or D than anyone but the top six... attrition wins.  they'll be fresh when the games begin, and.... they'll be favored throughout the playoffs.
honestly, once folks get over their redasses, this is going to be the best playoff so far.... there isn't a team there that clearly stands out from the others.


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Re: Playoffs! Did someone say Playoffs?
« Reply #365 on: December 03, 2017, 01:22:32 PM »
IOhio State didn't get in for the same reason Penn State didn't last year. They lost a game by 30+.

If they had lost to Iowa by 1 or 2 points on a last second FG, they are in.

Won't matter because Oklahoma is winning it all. Baker Mayfield is playing some of the best QB we've ever seen. His efficieny numbers and QBR is through the damn roof.
I agree.  That 31-point loss to Iowa is the killer.

I'd like to see winning your conference be a pre-requisite for making the playoff, but nobody asked me.

I hope you're right on that last part.
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Re: Playoffs! Did someone say Playoffs?
« Reply #366 on: December 03, 2017, 01:25:45 PM »
Wait.  And Alabama, not Georgia, got the Sugar Bowl?
Clemson got the Sugar Bowl.
Dabo Swinney said they'd rather play in the Sugar Bowl, even against Alabama, than travel to California for the Rose Bowl.
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Re: Playoffs! Did someone say Playoffs?
« Reply #367 on: December 03, 2017, 01:27:12 PM »
Alabama struggled to defend Auburn and Miss St. No clue why anyone would think they would destroy OSU.

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Re: Playoffs! Did someone say Playoffs?
« Reply #368 on: December 03, 2017, 01:29:39 PM »
there should be little doubt that Bama is at least one of the best four teams in the nation.   but... they didn't perform when they most needed to- and should have lost their position because of that one game.
however, they would destroy tOSU, and anyone else from the B10... PSU would stand the greatest chance against Bama, and they don't have an argument to play... Clemson is worthy, regardless of their terribly foul loss, and OU is playing as good as any of the other three.  
  • Georgia is going to be hard to stop.  their backfield is the best in the nation.  their starting 11 on D is the best starting 11 in the nation.  they're likely the team to beat by my reckoning.  
  • Clemson plays to whatever level they are required to play to... they lost to 'cuse, yeah- but it wasn't the rupture tOSU endured to both OU AND Iowa.  Their D is STOUT, and they have likely the best starting lines in the nation.
  • OU is playing as well as anyone on O, and have proven it's not a 'conference' thing by lighting up both TCU (x2) and tOSU's nationally ranked D's.  Their D is serviceable and enough to keep them in the game with the other three.
  • Bama may not have the best starting lines, nor the best starting O or D in the nation, but they are better than anyone below the top 6.   but to state the obvious, you could rotate three players on either side of the ball and they'd still have a better starting O or D than anyone but the top six... attrition wins.  they'll be fresh when the games begin, and.... they'll be favored throughout the playoffs.
honestly, once folks get over their redasses, this is going to be the best playoff so far.... there isn't a team there that clearly stands out from the others.


While I completely agree with Bama getting in, your take that they would kill OSU is hilarious,  given that's what they all said last time they played.
Bama struggles to run against good defensive lines, much like Wisconsin did last night.
Is JH a good enough passer to beat great defenses?   So far, the evidence is no.
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Re: Playoffs! Did someone say Playoffs?
« Reply #369 on: December 03, 2017, 01:30:36 PM »
Alabama struggled to defend Auburn and Miss St. No clue why anyone would think they would destroy OSU.
because both those teams picked on bama's weakness (at the time) which was LB corps.. they'll be healthy by NYD, and the team they were for the season prior to those two games... 
and.... they didn't lose to iowa by 40points.  :)

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« Reply #370 on: December 03, 2017, 01:31:58 PM »
because both those teams picked on bama's weakness (at the time) which was LB corps.. they'll be healthy by NYD, and the team they were for the season prior to those two games...
and.... they didn't lose to iowa by 40points.  :)
Yeah they just couldn't compete against the only strong team they played :57:

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Re: Playoffs! Did someone say Playoffs?
« Reply #371 on: December 03, 2017, 01:33:27 PM »
@Honestbuckeye and @MaximumSam 

tOSU struggles with teams capable of RPO (Gawd i HATE typing/saying that)... Bama can run, they can pass, and they can option... the bama Oline against tOSU D line is a push at best- and the quality of the Bama backfield is deeper than Wiscy's.  by the third or early fourth, it would be a three possession lead. 

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Re: Playoffs! Did someone say Playoffs?
« Reply #372 on: December 03, 2017, 01:38:47 PM »
While I completely agree with Bama getting in, your take that they would kill OSU is hilarious,  given that's what they all said last time they played.
Bama struggles to run against good defensive lines, much like Wisconsin did last night.
Is JH a good enough passer to beat great defenses?   So far, the evidence is no.
The first part I agree with. 
The second not really. We had plenty of running success vs au and msu. 200+ for 5.5+ ypc. LSU is only one we struggled with. 
And to your 3rd point hurts won that game with his arm. And MSU late. And against Clemson last year he put up plenty of points and scored the go ahead late in game. It was the d that failed that game. 
He is capable and that’s demonstrable. It’s also demonstrable he can struggle vs those teams as well. 

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Re: Playoffs! Did someone say Playoffs?
« Reply #373 on: December 03, 2017, 01:40:35 PM »
@Honestbuckeye and @MaximumSam

tOSU struggles with teams capable of RPO (Gawd i HATE typing/saying that)... Bama can run, they can pass, and they can option... the bama Oline against tOSU D line is a push at best- and the quality of the Bama backfield is deeper than Wiscy's.  by the third or early fourth, it would be a three possession lead.
For OSU? Buckeyes far superior to any offense Bama has played, and far from their best this year. Seems likely a repeat of 2014 if they played this year. OSU does make mistakes and let other teams hang around though, which would be Bama's best shot.

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Re: Playoffs! Did someone say Playoffs?
« Reply #374 on: December 03, 2017, 01:49:54 PM »
@Honestbuckeye and @MaximumSam

tOSU struggles with teams capable of RPO (Gawd i HATE typing/saying that)... Bama can run, they can pass, and they can option... the bama Oline against tOSU D line is a push at best- and the quality of the Bama backfield is deeper than Wiscy's.  by the third or early fourth, it would be a three possession lead.
Sure.  I am sure you believed that last time they played, where Bama was a huge favorite and the game was in their backyard lol.  
Look, I agree with Bama getting in. But it was a back door.  OSU eliminated themselves by laying and egg.  But don't come in here and talk trash about something that can never be proven, especially when the factual evidence in every way, says your wrong.  
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Re: Playoffs! Did someone say Playoffs?
« Reply #375 on: December 03, 2017, 01:53:25 PM »
factual evidence says tOSU lost a game by 40 points, and wasn't even their only loss. 

factual evidence demonstrates Bama lost to a surging Auburn team, that was playing red hot and capable of beating anyone in the land with a healthy backfield, but had to play arguably the best two teams in the nation three times this season.  

you are the one finding solace there will be no means to prove these possibilities... not me.. unlike you, i don't have a dog in the fight. 

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Re: Playoffs! Did someone say Playoffs?
« Reply #376 on: December 03, 2017, 01:55:28 PM »
Whether you play Mercer or Georgia Southern or Troy is irrelevant.

Well, strike Troy from that group.


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Re: Playoffs! Did someone say Playoffs?
« Reply #377 on: December 03, 2017, 01:58:21 PM »
Alabama is a great team and I agree that tOSU should not be in. However, going by the committees own criteria, Bama should not have made it. The did so because they are in the SEC and they have the talking heads at ESPN politicking for them. 

 

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