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Topic: P5 Alignment - post NCAA Membership

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Re: P5 Alignment - post NCAA Membership
« Reply #56 on: March 13, 2018, 05:29:16 PM »
yup, Horns/Aggies on Thanksgiving night

Huskers/Sooners the day after at 2:30 central
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« Reply #57 on: March 13, 2018, 05:30:56 PM »
Quote from: FearlessF on March 13, 2018, 05:29:16 PM
yup, Horns/Aggies on Thanksgiving night

Huskers/Sooners the day after at 2:30 central
Quote from: FearlessF on March 13, 2018, 05:29:16 PM
yup, Horns/Aggies on Thanksgiving night

Huskers/Sooners the day after at 2:30 central
Amen, brutha!

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Re: P5 Alignment - post NCAA Membership
« Reply #58 on: March 13, 2018, 05:34:26 PM »
Quote from: utee94 on March 13, 2018, 04:54:14 PM
My own personal feelings aside, why would it have to be a choice for OU?  The solution that makes the most sense puts Oklahoma in the same conference as both Nebraska and Texas.

Your proposal of Nebraska being in the B1G with zero traditional rivals makes far less sense than putting them back in the B12 with ALL all of their traditional rivals.

Again, if you're truly interested in "what's best for college football" then putting the  B12 back together in its original form (minus Baylor, obviously), makes much more sense than forcing Nebraska awkwardly into the B1G.
Well, Nebraska had been trying to get into the Big Ten since at least 1903, and it jumped at its first real chance. 

So, there's that, combined with its supposed desire to not be with Texas anymore.

We could do a lot of what-ifs on this thing (it's offseason).

Take the old Big 8 and add BYU, Utah and Texas A&M.

Take the Pac 10 and add Texas. Seems to me that UT had explored that in the past, and as recently as this decade.
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« Reply #59 on: March 13, 2018, 05:37:40 PM »
Quote from: 847badgerfan on March 13, 2018, 05:34:26 PM
Take the Pac 10 and add Texas. Seems to me that UT had explored that in the past, and as recently as this decade.
Plus they could merge the Pac 12 Network with the LHN, pull the plug, and tell people it was still on.  Not like anyone would be able notice if it was or wasn't to call their bluff!
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« Reply #60 on: March 13, 2018, 05:54:05 PM »
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« Reply #61 on: March 13, 2018, 07:53:20 PM »
Realistically, conferences aren't shrinking, just being plundered or growing.  I'd do a 16x4 setup, with pods, so each incoming FR class will play everyone else in their conference twice - once home, once away (every other year).

SEC + 2 (KU, OKST)
B10 + 2 (UVA, UNC)
PAC12 +4 (BYU, TCU, OU, Tex)
ACC -2, +4 (ND, WV, KSU, UCF)

So existing P5 programs ISU, TTU, and Baylor fall by the wayside.  ND and BYU are included.  The XII and ACC are poached, but the ACC survives.

Each conference has four pods of four schools each.  The PAC catches up with the SEC and B10, thanks to UT + OU.  The ACC becomes the red-headed Frankenstein ACC/XII combo + ND.

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Re: P5 Alignment - post NCAA Membership
« Reply #62 on: March 13, 2018, 08:12:44 PM »
I like the 8-team conferences, which allows for lots of out-of-conference match ups. Seven guarantees, leaves room for a couple of out-of-conference rivalry games, and still a few more wild cards OOCs (on a 12 game schedule). And the playoff is conference champs only, nice and clean.

Since we're splitting revenue anyway, flexibility is good, but so is order.
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« Reply #63 on: March 13, 2018, 08:42:15 PM »
I'd settle for 10 team conferences. Otherwise you lose too much history

The B1G, SEC and PAC would have the most to lose by going with less than 10, let alone 8 or 9.

Those 3 conferences have had the most stability over the years - one since 1896, which spans 3 different centuries. Who ya gonna drop to get to 8?

So let's look at 6 conferences with 10 schools each. Not much work to do with the Pac-10, Big Ten or SEC.
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« Reply #64 on: March 13, 2018, 08:42:23 PM »
This conversation (while enjoyable) is starting to sound like the meeting on the side of the road in the It's a Mad Mad Mad Mad World when nearly the entire ensemble cast (Rooney, Berle, Winters, Cesar, Hackett, etc.) are arguing over how to split the $250Gs and they cast the scorn towards Ethel Merman's character (the old bag).

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Re: P5 Alignment - post NCAA Membership
« Reply #65 on: March 13, 2018, 09:09:48 PM »

East
Notre Dame
Ohio State 
Michigan
Penn State
Tennessee
Georgia
Florida
Florida State
Miami
Clemson 

West
Nebraska
Oklahoma
Texas
aTm
LSU
Auburn
Bama
USCw
UCLA
BYU

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« Reply #66 on: March 13, 2018, 09:14:35 PM »
Quote from: 847badgerfan on March 13, 2018, 08:42:15 PM
I'd settle for 10 team conferences. Otherwise you lose too much history

The B1G, SEC and PAC would have the most to lose by going with less than 10, let alone 8 or 9.

Those 3 conferences have had the most stability over the years - one since 1896, which spans 3 different centuries. Who ya gonna drop to get to 8?

So let's look at 6 conferences with 10 schools each. Not much work to do with the Pac-10, Big Ten or SEC.
Well in my idea, you basically have pairs of 8-team conferences.  Plus you end up with 4 conference champions for a playoff.  All schools are on equal footing and have an equal chance at the national title.
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Re: P5 Alignment - post NCAA Membership
« Reply #67 on: March 13, 2018, 09:16:43 PM »
Quote from: Brutus Buckeye on March 13, 2018, 09:09:48 PM
East
Notre Dame
Ohio State
Michigan
Penn State
Tennessee
Georgia
Florida
Florida State
Miami
Clemson

West
Nebraska
Oklahoma
Texas
aTm
LSU
Auburn
Bama
USCw
UCLA
BYU
Lots of faded glory or never been in that list, buckaroo.
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Re: P5 Alignment - post NCAA Membership
« Reply #68 on: March 13, 2018, 09:18:17 PM »
Quote from: OrangeAfroMan on March 13, 2018, 09:14:35 PM
Well in my idea, you basically have pairs of 8-team conferences.  Plus you end up with 4 conference champions for a playoff.  All schools are on equal footing and have an equal chance at the national title.
Right, but that sucks for those of us who value matchups that date to the 19th century, or early 20th.
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Re: P5 Alignment - post NCAA Membership
« Reply #69 on: March 14, 2018, 12:31:49 AM »
Quote from: OrangeAfroMan on March 13, 2018, 07:53:20 PM
Realistically, conferences aren't shrinking, just being plundered or growing.  I'd do a 16x4 setup, with pods, so each incoming FR class will play everyone else in their conference twice - once home, once away (every other year).

SEC + 2 (KU, OKST)
B10 + 2 (UVA, UNC)
PAC12 +4 (BYU, TCU, OU, Tex)
ACC -2, +4 (ND, WV, KSU, UCF)

So existing P5 programs ISU, TTU, and Baylor fall by the wayside.  ND and BYU are included.  The XII and ACC are poached, but the ACC survives.

Each conference has four pods of four schools each.  The PAC catches up with the SEC and B10, thanks to UT + OU.  The ACC becomes the red-headed Frankenstein ACC/XII combo + ND.


badger's far-fetched ideas sounds fun.  Your far-fectched idea sounds like a boring NFL-lite.  No thanks.
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