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Topic: And Kinnick is Dark, and Full of Terrors (SOC 11/16/19)

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Re: And Kinnick is Dark, and Full of Terrors (SOC 11/16/19)
« Reply #182 on: November 17, 2019, 01:18:15 AM »
The fact that XII teams play worse defense than other P5 conferences isn't news.  I guess I'm just a broken record that should be tossed out.  Yes, LSU's defense sucked today.  Yes, their defense is much worse than it's been in the past.  But I've commented on that - that it's due to their more wide-open offense (and that Bama has been doing the same thing).  They're playing a lot like XII teams, for better or for worse.  



The XII-plays-no-defense narrative is from many games over the course of many years, so pin-pointing the 2010 Bama-LSU game or the 2019 LSU-OM game pales in comparison.  

The XII playing no defense is part of why OKST was on the outside looking in, in 2011.  It's part of why OU had no chance in the playoff last year.  I guess my crime is citing it too much.  Well, I guess I'm just a limited person.
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Re: And Kinnick is Dark, and Full of Terrors (SOC 11/16/19)
« Reply #183 on: November 17, 2019, 07:22:00 AM »
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Re: And Kinnick is Dark, and Full of Terrors (SOC 11/16/19)
« Reply #184 on: November 17, 2019, 07:26:40 AM »
Oklahoma mounted its greatest comeback win in program history.  Down 28-3 in the 2nd quarter.
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Re: And Kinnick is Dark, and Full of Terrors (SOC 11/16/19)
« Reply #185 on: November 17, 2019, 09:04:26 AM »
Sucks for Alabama and Tua.  If he's done and they don't have a suitable backup....does that sink their playoff shots?

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Re: And Kinnick is Dark, and Full of Terrors (SOC 11/16/19)
« Reply #186 on: November 17, 2019, 09:05:52 AM »
I don't think it changes anything.  I've been told here that Alabama shouldn't have made the playoff in the first place, so ho-hum.
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Re: And Kinnick is Dark, and Full of Terrors (SOC 11/16/19)
« Reply #187 on: November 17, 2019, 09:17:02 AM »
I don't think it changes anything.  I've been told here that Alabama shouldn't have made the playoff in the first place, so ho-hum.
Correctly told here. Yes.
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Re: And Kinnick is Dark, and Full of Terrors (SOC 11/16/19)
« Reply #188 on: November 17, 2019, 10:00:09 AM »
Yup.

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Re: And Kinnick is Dark, and Full of Terrors (SOC 11/16/19)
« Reply #189 on: November 17, 2019, 06:46:31 PM »
So after stewing a little bit on yesterday's loss, I'm neither surprised nor crushed. Similar to the Vikings coming off the Minneapolis Miracle two years ago by going to Philadelphia and getting crushed, I wasn't surprised at how flat the Gophers came out. 

One thing PJ and Co. HAVE to get better at is burning their timeouts. Fine, if you want to be unorthodox on how you use them, whatever. But every time they've had to burn a timeout, it's because it's clear that no one knows WTF is going on. 

I'm REEEEEEEALLY trying not to MMQB the decision to go for it on the play that ended with the unsporting foul/late hit on TJ. On one hand, 3 points there makes a big difference down the line. On the other hand, slants to the WR has been working in the second half, and getting the ball to your best playmakers in space is rarely a bad decision. 

Also, I've seen that Iowa is an astonishing 5-1 at home vs. Top Ten teams since 2008. It used to be that MNC bids died at the Miami Orange Bowl. Not anymore. They die in the depths of Mordor. 

Still, after all of that stupidity, Tanner and Co. had the ball with 2 minutes to go and a chance to win in a place where road wins have been hard to get. I'm not pleased, but nor do I have steam coming out of my ears. On to Evanston.

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Re: And Kinnick is Dark, and Full of Terrors (SOC 11/16/19)
« Reply #190 on: November 17, 2019, 06:49:09 PM »
I think the Gophers showed they are not a mediocre team at all.  This was a tough loss indeed, but I suspect a lot of teams (as noted) would lose at night in Kinnick this year.

And they were close.

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Re: And Kinnick is Dark, and Full of Terrors (SOC 11/16/19)
« Reply #191 on: November 17, 2019, 07:20:03 PM »
I think the slant to TJ was a great call, he isn't known for drops.  If he catches it cleanly he probably scores.  A tough break on the drop.  Then two more tough breaks with no call on the late hit and then the call on PJ.

I can only imagine PJ said something to a ref while on the field
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Re: And Kinnick is Dark, and Full of Terrors (SOC 11/16/19)
« Reply #192 on: November 17, 2019, 07:34:39 PM »
Badger coaches had their heads up their asses on that final drive. Gotta get 7 on that, and they settle for 3 - with a time out on the board.

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Re: And Kinnick is Dark, and Full of Terrors (SOC 11/16/19)
« Reply #193 on: November 17, 2019, 08:02:41 PM »

Also, I've seen that Iowa is an astonishing 5-1 at home vs. Top Ten teams since 2008. It used to be that MNC bids died at the Miami Orange Bowl. Not anymore. They die in the depths of Mordor.

It'd be 6-0 if Terrelle Pryor had scrambled for 15 yards on a 4th and 10 with less than 4:00 to go in the game.

I think the slant to TJ was the right call and an unfortunate drop. From an objective perspective, I'm not sure why the flag was a dead ball foul and not a late hit. From an Iowa fan perspective, I'm upset that I even had to live through it, since Koerner dropped the easiest INT of all time earlier in that drive.

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Re: And Kinnick is Dark, and Full of Terrors (SOC 11/16/19)
« Reply #194 on: November 20, 2019, 12:27:44 PM »
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Re: And Kinnick is Dark, and Full of Terrors (SOC 11/16/19)
« Reply #195 on: November 20, 2019, 09:49:15 PM »
I've been meaning to post this for weeks.  Thanks to Maximum Sam for starting these SOC threads and giving them make-me-grin-from-ear-to-ear titles.
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