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Re: OT - Weird History
« Reply #5348 on: July 28, 2025, 10:18:37 AM »
On July 28, 1932, American troops, with bayonets fixed, moved against a ragtag group of World War I veterans called the “Bonus Marchers.”
Amid the Great Depression, the Bonus Marchers sought the early payment of their wartime bonus, awarded by Congress in 1924 but not to be received until 1945 or in the event of the veteran’s death. Desperate for financial support during that time of economic turmoil, veterans and their families flocked to Washington, D.C., set up makeshift camps, and protested.
The situation escalated on July 28, 1932, after the D.C. government ordered the eviction of the Bonus Marchers from occupied buildings and their encampments. Chaos broke out and in the ensuing confrontation, two Bonus Marchers were shot by police—William J. Hushka died on the spot and Eric Carlson succumbed to his wounds on August 2. That same day, troops under the command of Chief of Staff of the Army Gen. Douglas MacArthur, including a company led by Maj. George Patton, deployed into the city to assist with the removal of the Bonus Marchers. While the soldiers did not use their guns, the situation became quite complex and they made a show of force with their bayonets drawn and five tanks.
Both Hushka and Carlson are buried in Section 18 of Arlington National Cemetery, among the graves of other World War I service members. Although they did not fall in battle, they lost their lives in a struggle for veteran benefits that made a lasting impact on how the United States treats its returning warriors.



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Re: OT - Weird History
« Reply #5349 on: July 28, 2025, 10:25:54 AM »
From what I remember reading Sherman didn't want to wreck the future home of The Allman Bros 😎. Actually he wanted to cripple the Confederacy's ability to wage war by targeting its infrastructure the Railroads, cotton gins, mills, warehouses, bridges, telegraph lines, any thing that might aid and support the Confederate cause would not be spared.

Macon wasn't a deal breaker and they had enough forces to slow his advance. He was still quite a ways from Savannah so was raiding not occupying until Savannah where he was reinforced and resupplied. Maybe they ripped up some rail lines going in and out of Macon but because of being so deep in the south wanted to avoid casualties where he could. 

I looked this up
To achieve this with speed, Sherman would forego supply lines and allow his army to live off the land after using up 20 days of assigned rations. He used the 1860 census on livestock and crop production to determine the best foraging areas for the army. That's a pretty sharp tactic right there
One of the things that they did to prevent or at least slow down Confederate efforts to replace/repair the infrastructure that they destroyed was to take Railroad Rails, heat them over a fire, then bend them around trees so that they couldn't simply be reinstalled.  The resulting twisted Railroad Rails were known as "Sherman's Neckties", picture attached. 

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Re: OT - Weird History
« Reply #5350 on: July 28, 2025, 10:36:55 AM »
Leading an Army into unknown (mostly) territory with an enemy army at your back is ... almost unprecedented.  I think most commanders would have taken out after Hood's army, though Sherman knew Hood's army was in bad shape, and he had another Union army up around Nashville (that later almost destroyed what was left).

Sherman left Atlanta and his supply line and communcations with Grant and Lincoln.  This was in the fall so a lot of edible crops and hogs would be available on the march.  

He showed up in December in Savannah and was able to send a message to higher command.  


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Re: OT - Weird History
« Reply #5351 on: July 28, 2025, 01:42:18 PM »
"Twelve O'Clock High" stands as one of the most underrated and rawest depictions of war in cinema.
Released just four years after the war's end in 1945, the movie captured the raw aftermath when memories were fresh and the public was shifting toward realistic portrayals of conflict rather than propaganda. Directed by Henry King, it follows a U.S. Army Air Forces bomber group in England during World War II, emphasizing the psychological toll of command.
It stands out as one of the first films to depict combat fatigue—now recognized as a form of PTSD—through Savage's emotional breakdown under relentless stress. Many consider it still the most authentic on this theme.
The screenplay was written by Sy Bartlett and Beirne Lay Jr., both veterans of the Eighth Air Force. Bartlett served at headquarters and drew from his experiences, while Lay commanded a bomb group. Their novel, adapted into the film, is loosely based on real events and figures, including the 306th Bomb Group and leaders like Colonel Frank A. Armstrong, who inspired the protagonist General Frank Savage.
The U.S. Air Force cooperated extensively, providing B-17 bombers, filming locations at Eglin Air Force Base, and a technical advisor from a bomb group.
War veterans Clark Gable, who expressed interest after his service in the USAAF, and Jimmy Stewart, a decorated bomber pilot, were linked to the lead role but passed on it—perhaps due to its intensity. The part went to Gregory Peck, whose portrayal of the stern yet fracturing Savage earned an Oscar nomination and is often called one of his finest, blending authority with vulnerability.



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Re: OT - Weird History
« Reply #5352 on: July 28, 2025, 11:35:44 PM »
"Auto racing, bull fighting, and mountain climbing are the only real sports... all the others are games" - Ernest Hemingway

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« Reply #5353 on: July 28, 2025, 11:43:13 PM »
"Auto racing, bull fighting, and mountain climbing are the only real sports... all the others are games" - Ernest Hemingway

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« Reply #5354 on: Today at 07:32:18 AM »
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Re: OT - Weird History
« Reply #5355 on: Today at 08:25:50 AM »
Ten Days in Sedan - YouTube

I found this pretty interesting about the German breakout in May 1940, it has a lot of detail, a lot of French measures that fizzled for various reasons, the conflict in German high command worried about flanks, and Guderian and Rommel ignoring orders.


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« Reply #5356 on: Today at 08:48:28 AM »
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« Reply #5357 on: Today at 08:51:44 AM »
"Auto racing, bull fighting, and mountain climbing are the only real sports... all the others are games" - Ernest Hemingway

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Re: OT - Weird History
« Reply #5358 on: Today at 09:20:53 AM »
Yeah, it's not.  It's a campaign that has always fascinated me for various reasons.

Some think Hitler caused the Germans to forfeit an even larger victory, and maybe that is true.

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« Reply #5360 on: Today at 10:01:03 AM »
"Courage; Generosity; Fairness; Honor; In these are the true awards of manly sport."

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Re: OT - Weird History
« Reply #5361 on: Today at 10:07:54 AM »
Ten Days in Sedan - YouTube
I found this pretty interesting about the German breakout in May 1940, it has a lot of detail, a lot of French measures that fizzled for various reasons, the conflict in German high command worried about flanks, and Guderian and Rommel ignoring orders.
I've been watching this as well.  Their WWII and Korea series have been interesting to follow.  I've been especially interested in the Korea one because you don't see as much about it.  It is called "The Forgotten War" for a reason.  

 

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