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Re: OT - Weird History
« Reply #4704 on: May 05, 2025, 08:42:23 AM »
The Mexicans are amused and willing to take gringo money for a holiday they barely recognize.  

Most ethnic restaurants around here have "Mexican" head chefs, Italian, steak houses, Japanese, you name it.  Our favorite noodle place has two Mexicans cooking.  We have gotten to know them some, they are from Mexico City.  It's nominally a Japanese place, they feature Kirin and sake and Sapporo.  I rather like the noodle bowls and kaarage chicken.

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Re: OT - Weird History
« Reply #4705 on: May 05, 2025, 08:55:14 AM »
I never really understood why Cinco de Mayo or St Patrick’s day even got so much press in the US. We don’t celebrate Canada day, WGAF about CdM ? 

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Re: OT - Weird History
« Reply #4706 on: May 05, 2025, 08:58:30 AM »
We haven't gotten to them yet.  These are clearly just excuses to "celebrate" because a normal day apparently isn't sufficiently exciting for many.


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« Reply #4707 on: May 05, 2025, 08:59:16 AM »
1863 Irish boxer Joe Coburn KOs American Mike McCoole in the 67th round in his first defense of Heavyweight C'ship of America in Charlestown, Maryland

1904 Cy Young pitches the first perfect game in "modern" baseball as the Boston Americans beat Philadelphia Athletics, 3-0

1921 Perfume Chanel No. 5 is released by fashion designer Coco Chanel

1922 Construction begins on Yankee Stadium in the Bronx, NYC

1925 Dayton teacher John T. Scopes arrested for teaching evolution in Tennessee

1925 Detroit center fielder Ty Cobb goes 6 for 6 with 4 runs, 5 RBI and 16 TBs in Tigers' 14-8 win over the Browns at Sportsman's Park III, St. Louis

1925 Yankee Everett Scott is benched, ending his 1,307-game playing streak

1961 Alan Shepard becomes the first American in space aboard Freedom 7

1989 National release of "Field of Dreams", a sports fantasy drama film based on W. P. Kinsella's novel "Shoeless Joe", starring Kevin Costner, James Earl Jones, Ray Liotta and Burt Lancaster in his final film role

1997 "Married With Children" final episode on Fox TV - Damn

2012 Japan shuts down its nuclear reactors leaving the country without nuclear power for the first time since 1970
"Let us endeavor so to live - that when we come to die even the undertaker will be sorry." - Mark Twain

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Re: OT - Weird History
« Reply #4708 on: May 05, 2025, 09:02:05 AM »

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« Reply #4709 on: May 05, 2025, 09:02:27 AM »
I never really understood why Cinco de Mayo or St Patrick’s day even got so much press in the US. We don’t celebrate Canada day, WGAF about CdM ?
I'd blame the trough water called Corona and a sizeable Mexican population. Plus the Canucks sent us Crown Royal/Molson/Labatt's Oh and Monique was always easy on the eyes- we're good.
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Re: OT - Weird History
« Reply #4710 on: May 05, 2025, 09:03:51 AM »
1961 Alan Shepard becomes the first American in space aboard Freedom 7
I saw some "sour grapes" comments in social media about how these women who went "into space" are not really astronauts, and technically maybe they aren't.

Shepard's first flight obviously was very similar because we lacked a reliable heavier lift rocket to get him into orbit.  One could argue the first X-15 pilots were astronauts.

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Re: OT - Weird History
« Reply #4711 on: May 05, 2025, 10:07:42 AM »
The Historian's Den
Alan Turing’s contributions to cryptography during World War II were pivotal in shortening the war and saving countless lives. As a leading figure at Bletchley Park, he developed techniques to break the Nazi Enigma code, allowing the Allies to intercept and decipher German military communications. His work laid the foundation for modern computing, influencing the development of artificial intelligence and cybersecurity. Despite his groundbreaking achievements, Turing faced persecution due to his sexuality, leading to his tragic death in 1954. Decades later, he was posthumously pardoned, and his legacy as a visionary mathematician and war hero was widely recognized.
Beyond his work in cryptography, Turing had a deep interest in biology, particularly in patterns found in nature. His fascination with daisies and other natural forms led him to develop the concept of morphogenesis, which explains how biological structures develop and take shape. His research in mathematical biology provided insights into the formation of patterns in living organisms, influencing fields such as genetics and developmental biology. Additionally, Turing was an accomplished runner, competing at an Olympic level, with marathon times close to those of professional athletes. His diverse talents and intellectual curiosity continue to inspire scientists and historians today.

"The Imitation Game" was a good movie about him.  He was played by Benedict Cumberbatch.  

Also, his last name is lent to computer programming languages that meet a certain standard.  If a programming language is capable of performing any function which can be outlined algorithmically (basically.....a language capable of doing anything you can think of to tell it to do, so long as you can figure out how to write the code), it is said to be "Turing complete."  

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Re: OT - Weird History
« Reply #4712 on: May 05, 2025, 10:08:39 AM »
It was a very good movie, as usual it wasn't meant to be entirely accurate, it made up some stuff.


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Re: OT - Weird History
« Reply #4713 on: May 05, 2025, 12:14:31 PM »

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Re: OT - Weird History
« Reply #4714 on: May 05, 2025, 12:40:34 PM »
Instead of "Before the Big Bang," wouldn't it be more accurate to say "Prior to 10-42 seconds after the Big Bang happened?"

I think that's the span physicists are referring to, between 0s and 10-42s of the Big Bang, not before it. 

Also, what does before the Big Bang even mean when time began with the Big Bang?

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Re: OT - Weird History
« Reply #4715 on: May 05, 2025, 12:51:22 PM »
Yup, there likely is no "before the BB", but it's true that physics breaks down before the point you note.

I'd also say inside a Black Hole, not at the center necessarily, just inside the Schwarzhild Radius, though Hawking radiation apparently is a thing.

And AT the speed of light, a lot of things just go to infinity, which we can't really understand.  I stumble over how a photon can have momentum and not mass.


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Re: OT - Weird History
« Reply #4716 on: May 05, 2025, 12:52:09 PM »


The V-2 Rocket engine - slightly more complicated than it looks! Alcohol and liquid oxygen were pumped into the combustion chamber by means of two fuel pumps mounted on a common axis. These powerful pumps were driven by a steam turbine with a power of 675 H.P.
At full power the pumps had an output of 5000 revolutions per minute. Only this way could the 8.75 tons of fuel be delivered in 6 to 7 minutes. The pumping unit weighed 450 kilogram.
The steam for the turbine was produced in a generator. Hydro peroxide and calcium permanganate were mixed in the generator. The resulting chemical reaction generated overheated steam, which drove the turbines.
The turbine pump and the steam generator were the most vulnerable parts of the V2: only one factory at Jenbach in Austria could produce the turbine pumps. This required high precision machines and an eminent production management.
The Allies were not aware of this and never employed their strategic bombardments against this factory. The interruption of the supply of turbine pumps would certainly have stopped the production of V2s immediately27.
The alcohol and liquid oxygen were vaporised under pressure by the injection nozzles and delivered to the combustion chamber. After combustion, the gases at a temperature of 1700º C expanded in a nozzle, giving a thrust of 27 to 28.000 kilograms, more than enough to propel the rocket.
Four rotating graphite vanes in the tail stabilized the rocket during take-off. External aerodynamic vanes could control the direction while the rocket was in flight.
Control became necessary, when the gyroscopes would detect differences between intended flight path and actual flight path.



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Re: OT - Weird History
« Reply #4717 on: May 05, 2025, 01:30:15 PM »
Instead of "Before the Big Bang," wouldn't it be more accurate to say "Prior to 10-42 seconds after the Big Bang happened?"

I think that's the span physicists are referring to, between 0s and 10-42s of the Big Bang, not before it. 

Also, what does before the Big Bang even mean when time began with the Big Bang?
Not going to get into our philosophy thread (which ultimately brings in religious themes), but I view it as essentially an unknowable question. 

I.e., we can ask if something existed "before" the Big Bang, or if the Big Bang "created" the universe out of nothingness? There are theories... One is that the universe is cyclical, i.e. that a Big Bang will occur, the universe will expand, and over time it will re-contract into a singularity, until the next Big Bang occurs. (I know there are also problems with that theory because our current universe appears to be expanding at an ever-greater rate until it eventually suffers heat death, and we don't see any signs based on the limited things we know that a "contraction" is a thing...)

But the idea that physics breaks down "before" the Big Bang is in my mind simply an admission that we believe that the answer to that question is unknowable. The observable universe is only post-Big Bang, as we understand it. So whether something existed prior to the Big Bang or not, we can't see beyond that moment. 

 

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