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Re: OT - Weird History
« Reply #3654 on: July 08, 2024, 04:58:53 PM »
https://www.atlasobscura.com/places/bridge-nowhere-san-gabriel-mountains
https://modernhiker.com/hike/hiking-the-east-fork-of-san-gabriel-river-to-the-bridge-to-nowhere/

I did the hike with a buddy in 2016. Nice hike w/o being overly challenging. The multiple stream crossings were annoying though. The first one we decided to take our shoes off and then put them on on the other side. After that we said screw it and just hiked with wet shoes. It was hot and dry enough that while it wasn't "pleasant" to hike like that, it was less annoying. And it's only 10 miles total, so it wasn't THAT bad.
When I did AT section hikes (which I'll get back to someday) we carried water shoes for stream crossings because wet socks/boots can easily lead to blisters and the alternative of crossing in bare feet can lead to even bigger problems if there are unseen sharp edges underwater.  

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« Reply #3655 on: July 08, 2024, 05:04:37 PM »
When I did AT section hikes (which I'll get back to someday) we carried water shoes for stream crossings because wet socks/boots can easily lead to blisters and the alternative of crossing in bare feet can lead to even bigger problems if there are unseen sharp edges underwater. 
Yeah, it's possible I didn't do it barefoot. I don't remember exactly. At the time I owned Vibram Five Fingers shoes because I'm a SUPER COOL RAD DUDE!, and I very well might have put those on to cross. But I only did it once, because knowing I was going to have to do it multiple times there and multiple times back was just too much. 

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« Reply #3656 on: July 09, 2024, 08:36:33 AM »
I'd rather hike over the bridge
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Re: OT - Weird History
« Reply #3657 on: July 09, 2024, 01:54:57 PM »
The 3x + 1 problem, is a math problem that has baffled mathematicians for over 50 years. It's easy to explain: take any positive number, if it's even, divide it by 2; if it's odd, multiply it by 3 and add 1. Repeat this process with the resulting number, and the conjecture says that you will eventually reach 1.

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« Reply #3658 on: July 09, 2024, 02:26:30 PM »
Why would that baffle them? 

If it's even and you divide by 2, and it's even again, you divide by 2 again, and if it's even again, divide by 2 again, etc. This means that every even number that results in an even number after divided by 2 will be divided by at least 4, and possibly 8, and possibly higher powers of 2. 

If it's odd and you multiple by three and add 1, the result will ALWAYS be even. So while it may intuitively seem like you're always making numbers larger when they're odd, it's much less than thought. Because the immediate result will be the equivalent of multiplying by ~1.5, not 3, because the next number will ALWAYS be divided by 2. 

So it's simple. Starting with:


  • 1. Multiply by 3, add one=4. Divide by 2=2. Divide by 2 again=1.
  • 2. Divide by 2=1.
  • 3. Multiply by 3, add one=10. Divide by 2=5. x3+1=16. /2=8. /2=4. /2=2. /2=1. 
  • Jump to, say, 17. x3+1=52. /2=26. /2=13. x3+1=40. /2=20. /2=10. /2=5. (Devolves to starting with 3 above, which gets you back to 1). 

This seems simple as hell. I didn't spend more than a few minutes thinking about it and I can see how the division of evens will always outcompete the multiplication of odds. 


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Re: OT - Weird History
« Reply #3659 on: July 09, 2024, 02:47:37 PM »
The conjecture is that you reach 1, yes indeed, it's not to prove that, but to prove that for all possible integers.

The 3x + 1 Conjecture, a Direct Path (scirp.org)

 Despite testing all starting values up to an enormous number, no one has proved the conjecture is true for all possible starting values. The problem’s importance lies in its simplicity and difficulty, inspiring new ideas in mathematics and advancing fields like number theory, dynamical systems, and computer science. Proving or disproving the conjecture would revolutionize our understanding of math. The presence of infinite sequences is a matter of question. To investigate and solve this conjecture, we are utilizing a novel approach involving the fields of number theory and computer science.

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« Reply #3660 on: July 09, 2024, 03:11:32 PM »
Ahh, got it. So they all understand it, but nobody has been able to concoct a formal mathematical proof.

That makes more sense than mathematicians being "baffled" by this :57:

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« Reply #3661 on: July 10, 2024, 07:39:48 AM »
THIS DAY IN HISTORY: 
European Aeronautic Defence and Space Company (EADS) Formed (2000)
EADS is one of the world's largest aerospace companies. It was formed in 2000 from the merger of Aerospatiale Matra of France, DaimlerChrysler Aerospace of Germany, and Construcciones Aeronáuticas S.A. of Spain. Responsible for the final assembly of Airbus aircraft, it is one of the top makers of commercial and military aircraft. It is also one of the major arms manufacturers in Europe, and its divisions also produce communications systems, space rockets, and satellites.
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« Reply #3662 on: July 11, 2024, 09:27:18 AM »
THIS DAY IN HISTORY: 

The Los Alfaques Disaster (1978)
The Los Alfaques disaster was an explosion that took place near a campsite in Tarragona, Spain, when a leaking tanker truck loaded with 23 tons of highly flammable liquid propylene ignited. This resulted in a massive explosion and fireball that reached over 1000° F (538° C) and destroyed everything within a 1000-ft (300-m) radius. It killed 217 people, including the truck's driver, and severely burned more than 200.
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« Reply #3663 on: July 11, 2024, 09:30:47 AM »

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Re: OT - Weird History
« Reply #3664 on: July 11, 2024, 09:34:14 AM »
The seatbelt was initially invented in the late 1800s by English engineer George Cayley. The invention was sparked from the idea to keep pilots inside their gliders. However, the first seatbelt that was created to be used in actual cars was made in 1885 by Edward J. Claghorn, in order to keep tourists safe in taxis during frequent drives in New York City.

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« Reply #3665 on: July 11, 2024, 09:35:28 AM »
I dislike wearing a seatbelt
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« Reply #3666 on: July 11, 2024, 12:30:05 PM »
This Day In History July 7 1928 Sliced bread sold for the first time by the Chillicothe Baking Company, Missouri, using a machine invented by Otto Frederick Rohwedder. Described as the greatest forward step in the baking industry since bread was wrapped.
By 1928, Rohwedder perfected a bread-slicing machine with Bench as the only investor and he marketed the sliced bread to the public. The patented machine not only sliced bread with multiple blades but also wrapped the bread efficiently. Bench's Bakery sold their Kleen Maid sliced bread beginning on July 7, 1928.
By 1933, around 80% of bread sold in the US was pre-sliced, leading to the popular idiom "greatest thing since sliced bread".


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Re: OT - Weird History
« Reply #3667 on: July 11, 2024, 12:43:47 PM »
I dislike wearing a seatbelt
Prolly didn't mind getting tied up though
Not that there's anything wrong with that
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