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Re: OT - Weird History
« Reply #4536 on: March 27, 2025, 10:37:46 AM »
Quote from: medinabuckeye1 on March 27, 2025, 10:27:22 AM
*Put-in-Bay:
For those not from this area and unaware, Put-in-Bay is on South Bass Island in Lake Erie.  It is the site of Perry's Victory Monument and it is basically a summer resort town where a LOT of drinking goes on.  Ie, we have been celebrating Perry's victory over the British there for the last 212 years since the US victory in the Battle of Lake Erie on September 10, 1813. 
Great song by Pat Daily

Take along some home grown, take along a bottle of wine
Waitin' for Commodore Perry, oh I hope he's on time
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« Reply #4537 on: March 27, 2025, 10:51:23 AM »
Quote from: MrNubbz on March 27, 2025, 10:37:46 AM
Great song by Pat Daily

Take along some home grown, take along a bottle of wine
Waitin' for Commodore Perry, oh I hope he's on time
I enjoyed a LOT of Pat Daily concerts at the Beer Barrel in PiB as well as the Sandusky State Theater, the Flats, Medina, and one in Key West. Unfortunately he's, as one of his songs said: "Pickin for the Lord on the great stage in the sky".
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« Reply #4538 on: March 27, 2025, 11:10:30 AM »
Did he die? Don't recall hearing that, great songs and performer

Forget that last transmission found this:

He died “peacefully” overnight, his son Reese Dailey wrote Thursday in a Facebook post. The cause of death was not reported.

With his entertaining mix of romantic ballads, bawdy tunes, and party songs, Mr. Dailey has been a fixture at the party island of Put-in-Bay since 1978, packing the crowds at the mammoth Beer Barrel until moving to the more intimate Boathouse Bar in 2007. Since 1984 and until his retirement in 2018, Mr. Dailey was a regular in winter at Sloppy Joe's Bar in Key West.

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« Reply #4539 on: March 27, 2025, 11:13:49 AM »
Quote from: MrNubbz on March 27, 2025, 11:10:30 AM
Did he die? Don't recall hearing that, great songs and performer
Sadly yes, last year:https://obits.cleveland.com/us/obituaries/cleveland/name/patrick-dailey-obituary?id=55568598
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« Reply #4540 on: March 27, 2025, 11:23:05 AM »
Quote from: MrNubbz on March 27, 2025, 11:10:30 AM
Did he die? Don't recall hearing that, great songs and performer

Forget that last transmission found this:

He died “peacefully” overnight, his son Reese Dailey wrote Thursday in a Facebook post. The cause of death was not reported.

With his entertaining mix of romantic ballads, bawdy tunes, and party songs, Mr. Dailey has been a fixture at the party island of Put-in-Bay since 1978, packing the crowds at the mammoth Beer Barrel until moving to the more intimate Boathouse Bar in 2007. Since 1984 and until his retirement in 2018, Mr. Dailey was a regular in winter at Sloppy Joe's Bar in Key West.

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One of Pat's greatest songs, IMHO, was "Singwriter's Lament" in which he sang about people in the Rockies, Texas, and Key West respectively wanting him to cover John Denver, Willie Nelson, and Jimmy Buffet. I would never have guessed that, of the four, Willie would be the last man standing but Willie is 91 (will turn 92 next month) and as far as I know he is still smoking 🚬 weed and playing "The Redheaded Stranger" while Denver, Dailey, and Buffet are all "Pickin for the Lord on the great stage in the sky".
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« Reply #4541 on: March 27, 2025, 11:26:37 AM »
Oh yeah Willie still smokes the hippie lettuce.

Snoop Dog has smoked with Willie and said he has a hard time keeping up with the old man. :)
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« Reply #4542 on: March 27, 2025, 11:29:09 AM »
Quote from: medinabuckeye1 on March 27, 2025, 11:23:05 AM
One of Pat's greatest songs, IMHO, was "Singwriter's Lament"
I had the "FRESHWATER" CD never got it back from an old friend I think he made a cassette. Gonna call him up

My Truck

https://youtu.be/QHKE4jzTyOw?list=PLoUgx8VRELfKWWigxc6jWGA-iBSf3N4Dc

"well i guess it's just the way that I say hello,
That makes a woman tell me good-bye
I'd rather have a truck than a woman,
Simply just a matter of pride,
Because when we go out'
There's never a doubt,
About who is taking who for a ride,
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Re: OT - Weird History
« Reply #4543 on: March 27, 2025, 01:36:21 PM »
Quote from: MrNubbz on March 27, 2025, 11:29:09 AM
I had the "FRESHWATER" CD never got it back from an old friend I think he made a cassette. Gonna call him up

My Truck

https://youtu.be/QHKE4jzTyOw?list=PLoUgx8VRELfKWWigxc6jWGA-iBSf3N4Dc

"well i guess it's just the way that I say hello,
That makes a woman tell me good-bye
I'd rather have a truck than a woman,
Simply just a matter of pride,
Because when we go out'
There's never a doubt,
About who is taking who for a ride,
A great song.

Dailey had a huge collection of great songs for drinking at a Summer Resort. His shows at the Beer Barrel were just a master class in showmanship.
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« Reply #4544 on: March 27, 2025, 01:40:06 PM »
Quote from: medinabuckeye1 on March 27, 2025, 01:36:21 PM
A great song.

Dailey had a huge collection of great songs for drinking at a Summer Resort. His shows at the Beer Barrel were just a master class in showmanship.
One of my all time favorites starts out like this:

"I heard a crash of broken glass
and I looked up to see
some drunk flying out of the Frosty Bar
and I'll be damned, it was me.

I landed on top
of a Put-in-Bay Lady Cop
She looked at me and said
Pat, you don't have to get drunk to be an A$$hole"


https://youtu.be/xNUeibCxieM?si=_Idhs0ajWZ8dy33h
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« Reply #4545 on: March 27, 2025, 01:46:42 PM »
Y'all were talking about history of the ancestry variety, so I thought I'd mention this.

I have an uncommon last name, and though a few scattered branches have made their way to California and Ohio, you almost only see it exclusively in southwest Louisiana (well, and now in Texas, I guess, with my ramblin' ass).  We've always had a somewhat decent oral history of our family in the States, and in my adult life several of my cousins have compiled a lot more research to verify and fill in details.  We know who the first guy with my last name to the US was, that he came around 1830, and that he was English.  But we never knew much beyond that. 

For several years I've belonged to a Facebook group dedicated to the family history, run by a British historian lady who took on a personal project to detail the family name as much as she could.  She compiled her findings into two books she self-published limited copies of, with a third forthcoming, hopefully.  They are obviously interesting to me, but just in general, I've always found the idea of doing records research in a country as old as England fascinating, because there's so many more years of stuff to dig through. 

She got quite a lot of detail as far back as the 1200's (!!!), and it's just crazy-fascinating to find out the story of the patriarchal line. 

One interesting thing that turned up, though hardly verified.....there is some evidence to suggest that prior to more reliable records, in the time of King John (of Robin Hood lore, Prince John in the stories), brother of Richard the Lionheart, there was a sheriff in the Nottingham district in the employ of King John, and that sheriff is possibly the earliest known person with our last name.  

So Robin Hood is almost certainly fictional, but if he was real, my ancestor hunted him.  
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« Reply #4546 on: March 27, 2025, 01:52:23 PM »
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« Reply #4547 on: March 27, 2025, 02:01:31 PM »
Quote from: MikeDeTiger on March 27, 2025, 01:46:42 PM
Y'all were talking about history of the ancestry variety, so I thought I'd mention this.

I have an uncommon last name, and though a few scattered branches have made their way to California and Ohio, you almost only see it exclusively in southwest Louisiana (well, and now in Texas, I guess, with my ramblin' ass).  We've always had a somewhat decent oral history of our family in the States, and in my adult life several of my cousins have compiled a lot more research to verify and fill in details.  We know who the first guy with my last name to the US was, that he came around 1830, and that he was English.  But we never knew much beyond that. 

For several years I've belonged to a Facebook group dedicated to the family history, run by a British historian lady who took on a personal project to detail the family name as much as she could.  She compiled her findings into two books she self-published limited copies of, with a third forthcoming, hopefully.  They are obviously interesting to me, but just in general, I've always found the idea of doing records research in a country as old as England fascinating, because there's so many more years of stuff to dig through. 

She got quite a lot of detail as far back as the 1200's (!!!), and it's just crazy-fascinating to find out the story of the patriarchal line. 

One interesting thing that turned up, though hardly verified.....there is some evidence to suggest that prior to more reliable records, in the time of King John (of Robin Hood lore, Prince John in the stories), brother of Richard the Lionheart, there was a sheriff in the Nottingham district in the employ of King John, and that sheriff is possibly the earliest known person with our last name. 

So Robin Hood is almost certainly fictional, but if he was real, my ancestor hunted him. 
That is cool!  

I've done a lot of genealogical research and it can be painstaking.  Most of my research is stateside because nearly all of my ancestors were in North America prior to the Revolutionary War.  There is only one known exception.  The exception I can trace only as far back as the 1850 census where she has an entry as a widow living with her children (one of whom is also my ancestor) in Dayton, Ohio.  On the Census Form she wrote her age then for "place of birth" she wrote "Germany".  

If you are a history buff like me, you will immediately spot the problem here.  Germany wasn't a unified Nation until the end of the Franco-Prussian War in the 1870's.  Thus, when she was born (about 1810) and even when she filled out that Census Form in 1850 there was no Nation of Germany.  

I researched that a bit further and found out that there was a lot of nationalist sentiment in the various City-States that made up what would become Germany even prior to the Franco-Prussian War so basically, when she listed her birthplace as "Germany" she was making a German Nationalist Political Statement.  The unfortunate problem for me is that "Germany" isn't even remotely helpful for further research.  That could mean basically anywhere that a decent percentage of Germanic people lived circa 1810ish which could be (now) Eastern France, Austria, Northern Italy, Western Poland, the Kaliningrad Oblast in Russia, one of the Baltic States, somewhere in the Balkans, parts of the Cech Republic, or even as far away as parts of the Ukraine or of course, somewhere in modern Germany.  It would have been a lot more helpful to me if she had put down what City she was born in.  
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« Reply #4548 on: March 27, 2025, 02:10:08 PM »
Quote from: MrNubbz on March 27, 2025, 01:52:23 PM
Out Drinkin' (wrongly titled heere)

https://youtu.be/Sm89GO9nyrc?list=PLoUgx8VRELfKWWigxc6jWGA-iBSf3N4Dc
Love this song, as soon as you posted I started singing (in my head):
"I hopped a fence and stole a boat out of the Edgewater Yacht Club then did 90 MPH out to the Bay.  
Oh you aught to go with me when I go out drinking, I always have myself a real good time."  

Funny Pat Dailey Story:
Pat Dailey had a song titled (IIRC) "Oysters".  The song was basically a series of puns based on celebrities' names with "what Oysters do" as the unifying theme so:
"They made Louies' Arm Strong, they made Dorris' Day and made Gladys' Knight".  It is funnier as Pat sings it (probably also helps to be drunk like the majority of Pats' audiences).  

About 25 years ago I had a job that involved a roughly 1 hour (each way) commute.  At the time I usually listed to the Bob and Tom Radio Show.  One morning they had a comedian on who did a song that was more-or-less identical to Dailey's Oyster song.  The guy did this with no attribution, no credit to Pat, nothing, just as if it was his own work.  I, of course, recognized it and called a friend of a friend who knew Pat.  I'm sure I wasn't the only one who let Pat know.  

I kid you not, the very next day I was on my way to work and had the Bob and Tom show on and their guest that morning was . . . Pat Dailey!  Bob and Tom were buttering him up like you wouldn't believe, just talking about how great he was and pushing his albums and shows at PiB, etc.  

Years later I ran into Pat and had a chance to have a brief conversation with him so I immediately asked if his lawyers had forced that issue.  Pat smiled and said he "couldn't comment" so I assume that settlement had some kind of nondisclosure agreement but I thought it was hilarious.  
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Re: OT - Weird History
« Reply #4549 on: March 27, 2025, 02:17:10 PM »
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nearly all of my ancestors were in North America prior to the Revolutionary War


So if we assume that was 250 years ago, subtract your age (50), that's 200 years.  Given that your ancestors double every generation, and average 25 years between ancestors (probably too much time but nice round number), I assume you have 8 sets of Great-Great-Great (to the 8th degree obviously) grandparents, which makes for 16 total ancestors.  So out of 16 ancestors, 15 of them were already here prior to 1776?  That's pretty impressive.  


I've traced back some of my family history.  It seems were mostly from England, pretty vanilla stuff.  Many of them came over in the 1850's and landed in Galveston.  A few served in the civil war.  Many settled and stayed in Texas.  A few are from TN area, Georgia, and other places in the SE.  I really don't know much about them to tell you the truth.  A lot of Williams and James in the family name.  
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