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Re: OT - Weird History
« Reply #3010 on: February 23, 2024, 06:51:21 AM »
Agreed. 

The oddest thing about it all is that through it all, the Japanese kept clinging to their "Decisive Battle" doctrine and waiting for the decisive naval battle which they thought would have to come eventually.  What they failed to realize was that the Guadalcanal campaign WAS the decisive battle.  Midway was important in that it SEVERELY curtailed the offensive punch of the IJN, but the decisive battle was Guadalcanal which turned into war by attrition which Japan couldn't hope to win against an enemy with 2x their population and 10x their industrial capacity.  The US simply bled the Japanese dry. 

After Pearl Harbor and the naval battles of 1942 there was something of a lull at least in terms of major fleet-vs-fleet naval battles and there wasn't another one until the Battle of the Philippine Sea in June of 1944.  In the battles of 1942 the IJN had been a worth adversary to the USN but by 1944 they were laughably outclassed.  They had lost many trained pilots
Of the IJN forces lost at Midway the air crews/pilots was catastrophic. Evidently they did not have an efficient system of training those crews enmasse specially after such a large shocking loss. Their superiority thinking at least among the top yes man didn't think it possible and therefor didn't plan on it - save Yamamoto. Their brass in fact hid that defeat from the public and even much of the military.For moral and ego reasons,but that didn't keep the rank and file from talking as later was discovered and discussed in personal notes/journals.They weren't buying the Bushido Code bullshit the Emporer's lackey's were selling as they were there and saw in person what Nimitz's Navy had in store
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Re: OT - Weird History
« Reply #3011 on: February 23, 2024, 07:38:55 AM »
Japan had a major problem with getting fuel.  They couldn't train pilots in part because they had to send what fuel they had to the ships and carriers and China.  The war really started because of petroleum.

Several times, Japanese ships would sortee using unrefined petroleum which is a disaster in the making if they take damage.  Their main objective was the oil fields in SE Asia, but these turned out to be not as productive as they had hoped, and they couldn't refine the oil on site and had to ship it to Japan.  This is why they needed the Phillipines, and why they attacked Pearl Harbor.

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Re: OT - Weird History
« Reply #3012 on: February 23, 2024, 03:48:06 PM »
Micajah Clark Dyer - Georgia's 1874 Pioneer Aviator
Micajah Clark Dyer - Georgia's 1874 Pioneer Aviator

Micajah Clark Dyer (1822-1891) was a pioneer aviator. He invented a flying machine for which he received Patent No. 154,654 on Sept. 1, 1874, titled “Apparatus for Navigating the Air.” It was placed in Class 244 for Aeronautics and Astronautics, and in Subclass 28 for Airships with Beating Wings Sustained. At that time, designs for manned flight were just beginning to make the transition from balloons and gliders to powered, heavier-than-air craft. His design is a very early example representing that transition. Clark, as he was called, married the buoyant power of a balloon with navigational controls for flight.
Blairsville, Union County, Georgia, where the invention and flights took place, and its surrounding counties didn’t have newspapers at that time, but the story of Clark’s invention was reported in dozens of newspapers in other towns across the U.S., perhaps also in foreign countries since efforts were underway all over the world at the time to build a machine that could fly.
Several neighbors, including Johnny Wimpey, Jim Lance and Herschel Dyer, witnessed Clark’s flights off Rattlesnake Mountain in the Choestoe Community of Union County in years about 1875 to 1885. He is buried in the Old Choestoe Baptist Church Cemetery, Blairsville, Ga.
A website, [color=var(--outline-link-color-default)]https://micajahclarkdyer.blogspot.com/[/iurl], has been maintained since 2004 to acquaint people with Clark’s accomplishments.[/font][/size][/color]



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Re: OT - Weird History
« Reply #3013 on: February 23, 2024, 03:50:07 PM »

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Re: OT - Weird History
« Reply #3014 on: February 23, 2024, 04:15:58 PM »


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« Reply #3015 on: February 24, 2024, 11:05:48 AM »
THIS DAY IN HISTORY: 

The Battle of Los Angeles (1942)
The "Battle of Los Angeles" is the name given by contemporary sources to the imaginary enemy attack and subsequent anti-aircraft artillery barrage that took place over Los Angeles, California, just months after the Japanese attack on Pearl Harbor. Reports of an imminent strike on the city led to the sounding of air raid sirens, the imposition of a blackout, and the firing of 1,400 shells at supposed Japanese aircraft, killing several US civilians.
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« Reply #3016 on: February 24, 2024, 11:47:58 AM »
I loved that movie.

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« Reply #3017 on: February 24, 2024, 11:51:45 AM »
me too

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Re: OT - Weird History
« Reply #3018 on: February 25, 2024, 08:17:04 AM »
Sears catalog distribution center/retail store on Ponce De Leon Avenue in Atlanta in 1979
The beginnings of Sears:
Richard Warren Sears was born in 1863 in Stewartville, Minnesota, to a wealthy family which moved to nearby Spring Valley. In 1879, his father died shortly after losing the family fortune in a speculative stock deal. Sears moved across the state to work as a railroad station agent in North Redwood, then Minneapolis.
While he was in North Redwood, a jeweler refused delivery on a shipment of watches. Sears purchased them and sold them at a low price to the station agents, making a profit. He started a mail-order watch business in Minneapolis in 1886, calling it the R.W. Sears Watch Company. That year, he met Alvah Curtis Roebuck, a watch repairman. In 1887, Sears and Roebuck relocated the business to Chicago, and the company published Richard Sears's first mail-order catalog, offering watches, diamonds, and jewelry.
In 1889, Sears sold his business for $100,000 and relocated to Iowa, planning to be a rural banker. He returned to Chicago in 1892 and established a new mail-order firm, again selling watches and jewelry, with Roebuck as his partner, operating as the A. C. Roebuck watch company. On September 16, 1893, they renamed the company Sears, Roebuck, and Co. and began to diversify the product lines offered in their catalogs.
Before the Sears catalog, farmers near small rural towns usually purchased supplies, often at high prices and on credit, from local general stores with narrow selections of goods. Prices were negotiated and relied on the storekeeper's estimate of a customer's creditworthiness. Sears built an opposite business model by offering in their catalogs a larger selection of products at published prices.
By 1894, the Sears catalog had grown to 322 pages, including many new items, such as sewing machines, bicycles, sporting goods and automobiles. By 1895, the company was producing a 532-page catalog. Sales were over $400,000 in 1893 and over $750,000 two years later. By 1896, dolls, stoves, and groceries were added to the catalog.


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Re: OT - Weird History
« Reply #3019 on: February 25, 2024, 08:18:57 AM »
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That building today is the hugely popular "Ponce City Market" after years of neglect.


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« Reply #3020 on: February 25, 2024, 11:09:13 AM »

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« Reply #3021 on: February 25, 2024, 04:31:18 PM »

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« Reply #3022 on: February 25, 2024, 06:21:04 PM »
THIS DAY IN HISTORY: 
First Pan American Games Are Held in Buenos Aires, Argentina (1951)
The Pan American Games is a multi-sport event open to competitors from all nations of the Western Hemisphere. Patterned after the Olympic Games and sanctioned by the International Olympic Committee, the games are held every four years in the year preceding the Summer Olympic Games. Argentina took home more medals than any other country in the first Pan American Games, however, the US has since become the overall medal leader, with a current total of 3,915.
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« Reply #3023 on: February 26, 2024, 08:25:12 AM »
THIS DAY IN HISTORY: 

The February 26 Incident (1936)
The February 26 Incident was an attempted military coup in Japan launched by a radical faction of the Imperial Japanese Army that sought to stamp out corruption and poverty in rural Japan by assassinating certain elder statesmen. Before the coup was suppressed, the rebels managed to briefly occupy the center of Tokyo and kill several leading politicians, including the finance minister. The prime minister, however, survived thanks to a case of mistaken identity.
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