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Topic: OT- Weird Eating Habits

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Re: OT- Weird Eating Habits
« Reply #168 on: April 30, 2018, 04:34:09 PM »

I rarely eat out at high-end steakhouses, either, but I know that when I do, I'm going to get a stellar product. I can grill a good steak, but I'm not as good as the cooks at Mastro's--or occasionally as good but not as consistently so--and I don't think I can get the same quality beef. Even my awesome local high-end butcher (ribeye $21.99/lb and never disappoints) doesn't have dry-aged meat that's on par with the best steakhouses.

Still, I trust my backyard to produce better steak than all but the high-end steakhouses. I ate at an Outback about 2 years ago (first time in a LONG time) and I won't go back for steak. If I'd served that to a guest at my house, I might as well slit my wrists, because I'd have shamed my family name.
I'm pretty good at grilling a steak, but I can't dry age steaks like my favorite steak houses.
the Outback Steakhouse here does a great job with fresh cut steaks. I always go with the Melbourne T-bone, Blue Cheese Wedge Salad, and the Broccoli & Cheese.
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Re: OT- Weird Eating Habits
« Reply #169 on: April 30, 2018, 04:34:40 PM »
The worst pulled pork I've ever had was in Utah.

It was slightly better than a Manwich.

The only available side was green jello with raisins, shredded carrots and cottage cheese suspended inside of it.
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Re: OT- Weird Eating Habits
« Reply #170 on: April 30, 2018, 04:45:15 PM »
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Re: OT- Weird Eating Habits
« Reply #171 on: April 30, 2018, 05:34:24 PM »
You'd be surprised what the restaurants pay. 
It's not like that here. Of course, they must purchase from distributors but they don't pay what we pay at the liquor store - who must buy from the same people the restaurants do.

Restaurants make money on booze here. Lots and lots of money. 

BYO is an option at maybe 5 percent of the establishments here.
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Re: OT- Weird Eating Habits
« Reply #172 on: April 30, 2018, 05:52:40 PM »
the Outback Steakhouse here does a great job with fresh cut steaks. I always go with the Melbourne T-bone, Blue Cheese Wedge Salad, and the Broccoli & Cheese.
Nope. I don't mind a bloomin' onion, and the bread they bring out before a meal is nice. Not sure if I've had their wedge, but I'd go for that. Hard to screw up iceberg lettuce, blue cheese, bacon and tomato. But if I find cause to go back, I'll probably stick with a burger or something, because I ain't touching their steak.

It's not like that here. Of course, they must purchase from distributors but they don't pay what we pay at the liquor store - who must buy from the same people the restaurants do.

Restaurants make money on booze here. Lots and lots of money.

BYO is an option at maybe 5 percent of the establishments here.
To be fair, restaurants make lots of money on booze here too. If you figure a keg of craft beer (~120 pints) costs them maybe $150, and they're selling pints for $6 each, I think they're doing alright. Definitely high margin. And then the kegs of macro lager are cheaper, but they sell them for $5 each, and they're still doing fine.

I'm just saying that it's not like they're paying some ridiculously low price for alcohol, relative to the big box booze stores around here. 

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Re: OT- Weird Eating Habits
« Reply #173 on: April 30, 2018, 05:58:09 PM »
25-40 percent less is the number here. That's where I came up with $5 for a bottle I pay $8 for. Big mark up to drink it there, and no BYO option.
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Re: OT- Weird Eating Habits
« Reply #174 on: April 30, 2018, 09:00:40 PM »
Bars and restaurants here can purchase many things cheaper at Sam's club than through their distributors

but, they pay less than a buck a bottle or can of beer.  resell for $3  

tap beer is where the $$$ is.
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Re: OT- Weird Eating Habits
« Reply #175 on: April 30, 2018, 09:11:23 PM »
Yes. The Brewpub model is where it's at for high margin beer production.  Serve passable food and some good brew and  it's a license to print money.  Decide to can or bottle that beer and you've introduced all kinds of costs to the model.

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« Reply #176 on: April 30, 2018, 09:16:11 PM »
tapping kegs of Bud Light and Coors light is very lucrative as well
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Re: OT- Weird Eating Habits
« Reply #177 on: May 01, 2018, 12:09:43 AM »
So I forget after all these years but you've now left the bay area for where?  
You make an excellent point and I can't help but agree when you say, "...any place that calls it a BBQ lacks good enough BBQ for me to care."  I can not argue with that!
And yes, it's extremely painful to pay $20+ per pound for beef rib.  The raw cut itself has become extremely expensive in recent years, and BBQ pitmasters also don't really like to cook it because the amount of space it takes on the pit and its effective yield are WAY below things like brisket and pork butt, so the opportunity cost of cooking it is also extremely pricey for them.
That's one of the main reasons I've perfected cooking it for myself.  I can occasionally stumble over a great deal where I get it for close to $2/lb raw, and I stock up when I do.

I feel bad because my dad is partial to heavy food and every time I go home, he's found some new "BBQ" place. And the food is usually good meat product, but it ain't BBQ. 

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Re: OT- Weird Eating Habits
« Reply #178 on: May 01, 2018, 09:32:41 AM »
I'm not a fan of corkage fees either
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Re: OT- Weird Eating Habits
« Reply #179 on: May 01, 2018, 10:14:41 AM »
Bars and restaurants here can purchase many things cheaper at Sam's club than through their distributors

but, they pay less than a buck a bottle or can of beer.  resell for $3  

tap beer is where the $$$ is.
Not here. Three companies and the unions have the full-on cartel model in place.
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Re: OT- Weird Eating Habits
« Reply #180 on: May 01, 2018, 10:29:33 AM »
well, the bars here "can" , but are not supposed to.  tough to enforce

they can't buy everything that way, regulators would get wary, but some do purchase a percentage of their supplies that way.

Convenience and price
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Re: OT- Weird Eating Habits
« Reply #181 on: May 01, 2018, 10:58:32 AM »
california enacted an OTP tax- "other tobacco products" which collected a 65% tax at the wholesale rack for customers of manufacturers and distributors who reside in Cali... 

i made a bushel selling "retail" at a 10% GM (which means i didn't retain records from customers purchases) to stores in Cali... I figured what they were doing, but...... their business, not mine.  a box of cigars are 'keystoned' for retail, meaning if you purchase from manufacturer for $100, it retails for $200... selling individual as opposed to boxes is greater than keystone... the cali buyers buying the same box of cigars i purchased from manufacturer for $102 (my state has a 2% tax on OTP) they had a minimum of $170 invested. buying from me put their costs into the >$120 range..... i aimed for volume and outfitting smaller cigar shops who didn't move enough product to get to the more exclusive labels... the cali buyers took advantage of that.  their taking advantage made me some bucks... it was good all around, except for the state and a bunch of clowns in their legislation who thought they were clever- they actually harmed their state greatly.  

most locally owned restaurants around here are keystone operations- running a 50%GM on all the products they move at a minimum.  it goes up from there... which brings me to something that ought to be in the "things i hate" thread in the BigVII board:

I hate restaurants that ENTER business thinking they're 'exclusive' or 'high end'... that is something EARNED- not 'declared'.  but that isn't how it works down here- these places open with $35 plates of pasta with overdone seafood covered in sauce from a jar, and well dressed servers in a decent atmosphere, and think they've arrived... meanwhile, there are high school kids cooking in the kitchen.   

 

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