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Kris60

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OT- Umpires
« on: July 12, 2023, 09:54:25 PM »
I think there are a couple of guys who mentioned they either umpire or used to umpire so I wanted to get some feedback.

In the last month or so I’ve had the opportunity to talk to two different youth league umpires on two different occasions who do baseball and softball games.  Youth league means ranging from little league to high school.

Anyway, both guys openly admitted (and defended) not calling strikes on pitches that were strikes.  The first guy said he doesn’t call the high strike.  If it’s above the belly button he just doesn’t call it. When I asked him why he said he feels it’s a tough pitch for younger hitters to hit and lay off of.  He said he offsets that by  usually calling pitches strikes that may be just below the knees.

The second guy said he doesn’t call the inside strike.  To be more precise, he’ll call it but only if the entire ball crosses over the white portion of the plate. If a portion of the ball knicks the corner he won’t call it.  His reasoning was that pitch is almost impossible to hit without jamming a kid up.  He said, “these kids aren’t major leaguers.  They can’t handle that pitch.”

  I’ve always known umpires had different strike zones but I guess I always thought it was something they weren’t consciously aware of.  These guys are openly admitting there are pitches they know are strikes but won’t call.

My daughter starts high school in the fall and will probably be her school’s number 1 pitcher.  Through little league and middle school she was a pretty dominant pitcher against the relatively weak competition she faced.  On a couple different occasions I’ve had umpires come up to me after games to compliment her on her pitching and add good naturedly “I was pinching her a little. They didn’t have a chance against her and calling the corners just seemed unfair.”

How standard is this among umps?

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Re: OT- Umpires
« Reply #1 on: July 12, 2023, 10:01:25 PM »
It was not at all standard in my umpire days

every ump has his own view of where the strike zone is so some will give you a little room on the inside or the outside but the goal of umps back in my day was to call strikes that crossed the plate at the knnes up to the mid chest area

Rules are there for a reason and should be followed
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« Reply #2 on: July 12, 2023, 10:12:37 PM »
Did you say you have a daughter playing High School baseball or was it softball
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« Reply #3 on: July 12, 2023, 10:28:55 PM »
Did you say you have a daughter playing High School baseball or was it softball
Softball

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« Reply #4 on: July 12, 2023, 10:34:57 PM »
Softball
I assume fast pitch

I not only umped the boys up through Jr Teenage but also called a lot of girls softball

I really enjoyed umping for the girls teams 

They played hard and never gave the ump a bad time

They were all business and it was a refreshing change from the boys
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« Reply #5 on: July 12, 2023, 10:35:09 PM »
It was not at all standard in my umpire days

every ump has his own view of where the strike zone is so some will give you a little room on the inside or the outside but the goal of umps back in my day was to call strikes that crossed the plate at the knnes up to the mid chest area

Rules are there for a reason and should be followed
Exactly. That’s what I thought too.  I’m not a trained umpire but I’ve been forced into duty of some LL games  because if someone didn’t do it the kids couldn’t play.  What I told the coaches and kids was if the pitch was borderline and I wasn’t sure I was probably going to call it a strike, so be prepared to swing the bat.

But to just disregard the rules because you have your own personal opinion of them is just stupid.

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« Reply #6 on: July 12, 2023, 10:45:22 PM »
I assume fast pitch

I not only umped the boys up through Jr Teenage but also called a lot of girls softball

I really enjoyed umping for the girls teams

They played hard and never gave the ump a bad time

They were all business and it was a refreshing change from the boys
Yeah, in my experience girls rarely give umps any grief and I’ve had other umps say what you said.  I think boys see MLB players do it and think it’s just part of the game, or they try to impress their friends by spouting off.

A couple years ago we went to my nephew’s travel league game.  Some kid on his team got hit by a pitch, slammed his bat down, and glared at the pitcher all the way down the first base line.  I wanted to scream at him to get his ass to first and quit trying to look so tough.  I just wasn’t used to seeing that because I watch so much softball.

When a girl gets hit by a pitch she just wears it and sprints to first.  It also isn’t all that unusual for the pitcher to go to the kid she hit, give her five, and apologize.

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Re: OT- Umpires
« Reply #7 on: July 12, 2023, 10:45:31 PM »
This is a MLB umpire.
In the NLCS.
For real.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mR3eK5gCChM
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« Reply #8 on: July 12, 2023, 10:45:37 PM »
My dad was also an umpire and some of my fondest memories is calling a game with him
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« Reply #9 on: July 12, 2023, 10:47:35 PM »
This is a MLB umpire.
In the NLCS.
For real.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mR3eK5gCChM

Id say that ump has an expanded strike zone

where was he when I was pitching lol
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« Reply #10 on: July 12, 2023, 10:50:12 PM »
Yeah, in my experience girls rarely give umps any grief and I’ve had other umps say what you said.  I think boys see MLB players do it and think it’s just part of the game, or they try to impress their friends by spouting off.

A couple years ago we went to my nephew’s travel league game.  Some kid on his team got hit by a pitch, slammed his bat down, and glared at the pitcher all the way down the first base line.  I wanted to scream at him to get his ass to first and quit trying to look so tough.  I just wasn’t used to seeing that because I watch so much softball.

When a girl gets hit by a pitch she just wears it and sprints to first.  It also isn’t all that unusual for the pitcher to go to the kid she hit, give her five, and apologize.
yep and it was always yes sir and no sir

amazing
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Re: OT- Umpires
« Reply #11 on: July 12, 2023, 10:53:18 PM »
Id say that ump has an expanded strike zone

where was he when I was pitching lol
he was behind the plate for Greg Maddux
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« Reply #12 on: July 12, 2023, 10:56:55 PM »
he was behind the plate for Greg Maddux
yep well it appears hes reached his level of incompetence
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Re: OT- Umpires
« Reply #13 on: July 12, 2023, 11:22:12 PM »
I listened to that game on the radio on a long drive back from Waco to Lincoln.   I couldn't wait to get in front of a TV to see the highlights.  I forget who had the game not the radio but they couldn't contain the disbelief.

 

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