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Topic: OSU - UGA Series 2030-2031

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Cincydawg

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OSU - UGA Series 2030-2031
« on: November 07, 2019, 11:02:22 AM »
COLUMBUS, Ohio – Ohio State University and the University of Georgia have agreed to a home-and-home football series for the 2030 and 2031 seasons. Ohio State will make its first trip to Georgia’s Sanford Stadium Sept. 14, 2030, while Georgia will visit Ohio Stadium for the first time on Aug. 30, 2031.

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Re: OSU - UGA Series 2030-2031
« Reply #1 on: November 07, 2019, 11:32:28 AM »
In 2030, UGA will play Clemson, OSU, and GT, and the next year Oklahoma, @OSU, and @GT.

In 2028, UGA plays @ Texas, FSU, and GT and in 2029, Texas, @ Clemson, @ GT.

Ouch.  Is this good for recruiting?
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Re: OSU - UGA Series 2030-2031
« Reply #2 on: November 07, 2019, 01:21:19 PM »
We'll all be dead by then.
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Cincydawg

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Re: OSU - UGA Series 2030-2031
« Reply #3 on: November 07, 2019, 01:31:08 PM »
Most programs have their dance card filled up 5-6-7 years out which is why we see these series announced 10-12 years out.

I'll still be posting here, wherever here is by then.

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Re: OSU - UGA Series 2030-2031
« Reply #4 on: November 07, 2019, 03:14:35 PM »
In 2030, UGA will play Clemson, OSU, and GT, and the next year Oklahoma, @OSU, and @GT.

In 2028, UGA plays @ Texas, FSU, and GT and in 2029, Texas, @ Clemson, @ GT.

Ouch.  Is this good for recruiting?
I think and hope that this is a reflection of two things:
  • That AD's are not as worried about "scheduling a loss" as they used to be because the CFP committee does seem to take SoS into account more seriously than the AP voters and BCS rankings ever did.  Thus, having a potentially brutal OOC of OU, @tOSU, @GaTech isn't as troubling as it used to be.  If, for example, Georgia were to play that schedule and lose in Columbus along with one SEC game but finish 11-2 and SEC Champions I'm fairly confident that they would get in.  A big part of the reason is that their SoS would almost certainly be vastly better than the 12-1 or 11-1 teams in the conversation with them.  
  • Realistically, I think right now that basically everyone assumes that the playoff WILL expand to at least eight teams at the end of the current 12-year contract.  Further, once it does, I think that basically everyone assumes that at least the P5 Champions will have auto-bids.  In that case Georgia would still control their own playoff destiny even if they lost to the Sooners, Buckeyes, and Yellowjackets.  Conversely, if Georgia did NOT win the SEC, their SoS with those opponents would certainly help them in the conversation for whatever at-large bids exist.  


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Re: OSU - UGA Series 2030-2031
« Reply #5 on: November 07, 2019, 03:31:56 PM »
So, will other programs follow suit and play 11 P5 level programs a year?  Today it's a rarity.

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Re: OSU - UGA Series 2030-2031
« Reply #6 on: November 07, 2019, 03:43:31 PM »
So, will other programs follow suit and play 11 P5 level programs a year?  Today it's a rarity.
I think so but for a completely different reason.  We have talked extensively on here about the CFB Bubble.  Even Ohio State isn't able to sell tickets as easily as they used to.  I've noticed because they used to only let me get one game per year but now I can buy one "premium" game (usually most or all of the conference games and the marquee OOC game(s)) and as many "non-premium" games as I want.  Also, I can only buy two tickets to the "premium" game but I can buy at least four for the non-premium games. 

As attendance continues to wane particularly for the crappy "body-bag" OOC games, the obvious solution will be for schools to beef up their schedules.  If Ohio State and Georgia can fill up Sanford Stadium and the Shoe with people who paid $65+ ea to watch the Bulldogs and Buckeyes beat the tar out of the Eagles and Golden Flashes then that probably makes sense for both schools, However, if Ohio State and Georgia find that they can't sell tickets for games against Kent State and Georgia Southern then it will make financial sense for them to play each other instead. 

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Re: OSU - UGA Series 2030-2031
« Reply #7 on: November 07, 2019, 03:50:01 PM »
https://www.sportsbusinessdaily.com/Daily/Issues/2018/11/15/Colleges/Georgia.aspx

Interesting, this says they sell every ticket, but they have a lot of no shows for pastry games, which makes sense.  Folks might show up for tail gating and simply not go to the game.  Then when they have a marquis opponent like ND the secondary markets light up.

https://georgiadogs.com/news/2018/8/7/2018-football-ticket-priority-requirements.aspx

Then you have to make a large donation to get partial season tickets, it's cheaper to buy the games you want on a secondary market versus paying $25 K for a "donation" to qualify.  With the advent of incredible TVs versus the cost of parking and food and getting to the game and traffic, a lot of "us" are prone to staying home.

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Re: OSU - UGA Series 2030-2031
« Reply #8 on: November 07, 2019, 05:19:48 PM »
https://www.sportsbusinessdaily.com/Daily/Issues/2018/11/15/Colleges/Georgia.aspx

Interesting, this says they sell every ticket, but they have a lot of no shows for pastry games, which makes sense.  Folks might show up for tail gating and simply not go to the game.  Then when they have a marquis opponent like ND the secondary markets light up.

https://georgiadogs.com/news/2018/8/7/2018-football-ticket-priority-requirements.aspx

Then you have to make a large donation to get partial season tickets, it's cheaper to buy the games you want on a secondary market versus paying $25 K for a "donation" to qualify.  With the advent of incredible TVs versus the cost of parking and food and getting to the game and traffic, a lot of "us" are prone to staying home.
Don't take this as me picking on Georgia because it isn't just them, I don't trust any of the schools with their claims to have sold all of the tickets to each game.  The B1G claims to sell all the tickets to their CG but a surprising number of those fans appear to come each year dressed as empty seats.  The ACC is even worse about this.  

It probably isn't terribly unlikely that schools like Georgia and Ohio State are still managing to sell all the tickets even for the pastry games, but I think it is getting tougher.  

My own example:  For many years my dad was able to buy season tickets from a guy who graduated from Ohio State in the 1950's.  Thus, my dad, brother, and I basically shared two tickets to each game for many years.  We basically rotated with brother and dad, dad and I, brother and I, brother and his wife, gf (this was before I was married) and I getting the two tickets.  A few years ago that came to an end.  

Years ago I had always planned to start paying the donation ($1,500/yr last time I checked) to buy my own season tickets once that ended.  When it ended, I didn't even think about it.  For Ohio State, they charge somewhere close to $70 per ticket for the crappy games and more for major games.  When you add in the $1,500 annual donation to even be eligible to buy the tickets it is >$2,500/yr for two tickets each to (usually) seven home games.  That is 14 tickets for (at least) $2,500 which is >$180/ticket.  Looking at this years' home schedule:
  • Florida Atlantic:  Seriously, $180 for a ticket to this game?
  • Cincinnati:  Maybe and they are NOW ranked but it was a 42-0 rout, $180 for a ticket to this game?
  • Miami, OH:  Seriously, $180 for a ticket to this game?
  • Michigan State:  Ok, maybe . . .
  • Wisconsin:  I actually bought these but it wasn't $180ea.  That might be reasonable for this.  
  • Maryland:  Seriously, $180 for a ticket to this game?  
  • Penn State:  That is reasonable or even cheap for this game.  Right now on the secondary market tickets for this game start at $159 and decent seats are WAY more.  
Of the seven games, $180/ticket is reasonable for two of them (PSU and UW) and not completely outlandish for one more (MSU) while it is flat out ridiculous for the other four (FAU, UC, Mia, UMD).  

The other thing is that I've been to a LOT of games.  I do enjoy it, but early in the season when the Buckeyes play four home games in six weeks from August 31-October 5 it becomes a grind.  It is nearly impossible to get anything done on a gameday if I am going to the game.  It is a ~2 hour drive each way plus a ~4 hour game so it takes an absolute minimum of eight hours.  

I've simply come to the conclusion that, for me, if I want to go to a big game I'll get on the secondary market sites and pay the going rate.  I do end up paying more sometimes for THAT game, but I don't end up feeling like I *HAVE* to spend eight (more realistically 10-12) hours dealing with traffic and whatnot to go watch Ohio State beat the snot out of FAU and Miami, OH.  I prefer to go to the one premium game a year that I can buy as a member of the Alumni Association and save the rest of my money toward bowl trips or road game trips or whatever.  


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Re: OSU - UGA Series 2030-2031
« Reply #9 on: November 07, 2019, 06:23:08 PM »
I think they do sell out, but it's kind of smoke and mirrors.

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« Reply #10 on: November 07, 2019, 06:25:54 PM »
I think they do sell out, but it's kind of smoke and mirrors.
Agree.  

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Re: OSU - UGA Series 2030-2031
« Reply #11 on: November 07, 2019, 09:04:12 PM »
In 2030, UGA will play Clemson, OSU, and GT, and the next year Oklahoma, @OSU, and @GT.

In 2028, UGA plays @ Texas, FSU, and GT and in 2029, Texas, @ Clemson, @ GT.

Ouch.  Is this good for recruiting?
That's some solid OOC scheduling, CD.  Really, really solid.
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Re: OSU - UGA Series 2030-2031
« Reply #12 on: November 08, 2019, 07:29:41 AM »
I think and hope that this is a reflection of two things:
  • That AD's are not as worried about "scheduling a loss" as they used to be because the CFP committee does seem to take SoS into account more seriously than the AP voters and BCS rankings ever did.  Thus, having a potentially brutal OOC of OU, @tOSU, @GaTech isn't as troubling as it used to be.  If, for example, Georgia were to play that schedule and lose in Columbus along with one SEC game but finish 11-2 and SEC Champions I'm fairly confident that they would get in.  A big part of the reason is that their SoS would almost certainly be vastly better than the 12-1 or 11-1 teams in the conversation with them. 
  • Realistically, I think right now that basically everyone assumes that the playoff WILL expand to at least eight teams at the end of the current 12-year contract.  Further, once it does, I think that basically everyone assumes that at least the P5 Champions will have auto-bids.  In that case Georgia would still control their own playoff destiny even if they lost to the Sooners, Buckeyes, and Yellowjackets.  Conversely, if Georgia did NOT win the SEC, their SoS with those opponents would certainly help them in the conversation for whatever at-large bids exist. 


You captured my thoughts exactly. Let's hope that these teams continue this trend. This past weekend's slate of games was so bad, it was hard to watch any game for very long. I enjoy when good teams are challenged. 

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Re: OSU - UGA Series 2030-2031
« Reply #13 on: November 08, 2019, 11:27:02 AM »
My "metric" for a solid schedule of course is playing ten P5 level teams each year.  Then you have two pastries to insert somewhere, OK with me.

Tennessee this season is playing only 8 (all conference games) and they of course lost to two of the pastries (BYU is not quite a pastry).

 

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