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FearlessF

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Re: OSU and reality
« Reply #210 on: October 31, 2019, 02:16:22 PM »
a degree of any sort will help open doors to opportunities

it's up to the individual to make the most of those opportunities
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Re: OSU and reality
« Reply #211 on: October 31, 2019, 02:40:41 PM »
There are kids coming out of the local college with AAT degrees making a lot of money, doing things like manufacturing technology, welding, HVAC, etc. No student loans either. These kids will never be my problem. We just need more of them.
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« Reply #212 on: October 31, 2019, 02:46:48 PM »
We are doing a refi here.  The appraiser was here yesterday.  He was a chatty type and said he can't find enough appraisers.  He has six in his business.  He's running like crazy to keep up.  I think they attend some school for a few months to get certified.

He showed me how he went about it.  He had a laser range finder and iPad for sketching the floor plan.  He said he was 55 and about to retire to Florida.

There are a LOT of jobs like this that are almost forgotten where a person can make some pretty decent money.

Show up for work on time, be honest, do a reasonable job with reasonable effort ....

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« Reply #213 on: October 31, 2019, 02:48:55 PM »


Show up for work on time, be honest, do a reasonable job with reasonable effort ....
bingo

degree or not
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« Reply #214 on: October 31, 2019, 02:51:21 PM »
Get it together kid. Grow up. Get a life. Stop being a burden on society.Why don't you go play your little college football game that no one is interested in - thicko.You're wrong UFM had a man crush on JT.You and BAB win Haskins and Burrow both SUCK HAPPY?
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« Reply #215 on: October 31, 2019, 03:02:22 PM »
get a haircut and get a REAL job
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« Reply #216 on: October 31, 2019, 03:07:58 PM »
Nubbz, I’ll give you this, you’ve made a good case.  Because I have to admit every time I’ve heard an Ohio St fan complain about JT Barrett my knee jerk reaction has always been, “You spoiled brats are complaining about a guy who won a ton of games and set a ton of records?  Give me a break.”

Thanx K60 I followed it pretty closely 3 yrs back,and I shouldn't be so passionette for sure.It's just for years-n-years following the Browns/Indians it is never a given you'll get back there.Had to wait 34 years for Ohio State to get one then lose two more.JT wasn't bad and maybe a platooning thing could have worked.When the opponent can effectively remove 20-30% of the field to cover then Earl Campbell,Jim Brown or Barry Sanders better be carrying the rock not JT.Urban promised after that shellacking there would be change and... did...nothing.That's what chapped many a moons.There were 2 gunslingers right there with itchy trigger fingers wanting into the fray - that was the WTF moment
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« Reply #217 on: October 31, 2019, 03:09:33 PM »
Show up for work on time, be honest, do a reasonable job with reasonable effort ....
This really is the key.  I hire people here and unless you are just REALLY dense I can train you to do the work but I can't train somebody to show up sober at 8am every morning and put in a reasonable level of effort.  


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« Reply #218 on: October 31, 2019, 03:10:20 PM »
Are you okay?  Do you want to talk about it?
Go play with your game boy
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Re: OSU and reality
« Reply #219 on: October 31, 2019, 03:10:47 PM »
How many of the recent NC teams have featured a "mobile QB" (however defined)?  Seems like several, maybe most.  Clemson might be an exception depending.

Cardale wasn't exactly "mobile" but he was, um, hard to bring down.


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« Reply #220 on: October 31, 2019, 03:11:24 PM »
This really is the key.  I hire people here and unless you are just REALLY dense I can train you to do the work but I can't train somebody to show up sober at 8am every morning and put in a reasonable level of effort. 


Sober ...at 8am ......well I was going to ask
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« Reply #221 on: October 31, 2019, 03:17:17 PM »
https://www.aps.org/publications/apsnews/200511/history.cfm

The EPR paper is a famous one from the period where quantum mechanics was being discussed (and disputed).  Einstein had a very deterministic view of the universe.  QM was/is clearly contrary to that view, so he fought against it, or more correctly he challenged it as being incomplete.

Werner Heisenberg, Niels Bohr and others who helped create the theory insisted that there was no meaningful way in which to discuss certain details of an atom’s behavior: for example, one could never predict the precise moment when an atom would emit a quantum of light. But Einstein could never fully accept this innate uncertainty, once famously declaring, “God does not play dice.” He wasn’t alone in his discomfort: Erwin Schrödinger, inventor of the wave function, once declared of quantum mechanics, “I don’t like it, and I’m sorry I ever had anything to do with it.”

In a 1935 paper, Einstein, Boris Podolsky and Nathan Rosen introduced a thought experiment to argue that quantum mechanics was not a complete physical theory. Known today as the “EPR paradox,” the thought experiment was meant to demonstrate the innate conceptual difficulties of quantum theory. It said that the result of a measurement on one particle of an entangled quantum system can have an instantaneous effect on another particle, regardless of the distance of the two parts.


Heisenberg , Shrodinger and Ohm are driving in a car and get pulled over by a police officer.  Heisenberg is driving and the cop asks him "Do you know how fast you were going."  Heisenberg responds that he does not so the officer says "You were doing 55 in a 35."  Heisenberg throws up his hands and shouts "Great, now I'm lost!"  

The cop thinks that's suspicious so he orders him to pop the trunk.  He takes a look and says "Do you know you have a dead cat back here?"  "We do now, asshole!" shouts Shrodinger.  

The cop proceeds to arrest them.  Ohm resists.  

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Re: OSU and reality
« Reply #222 on: October 31, 2019, 03:19:46 PM »
There are kids coming out of the local college with AAT degrees making a lot of money, doing things like manufacturing technology, welding, HVAC, etc. No student loans either. These kids will never be my problem. We just need more of them.
I've been pushing this for YEARS.  Voc Ed is massively under-utilized in our society.  

Upthread you some people were talking about how getting a degree is helpful for everyone.  I strongly disagree.  There are a LOT of people today who go to college and get useless degrees and end up only marginally more employable at age 22, 23, 24, or 25 than they would have been at age 18 with no degree and with a huge pile of debt.  

Worse, about half of the people who go to college immediately after HS will never graduate.  Sources:


For the ~35% of HS Graduates who go to college but never graduate, college is nothing more than an ENORMOUS waste of time and money.  

The problem, bottom line, is that WAY too many kids are going to college.  It probably *should* be around 25% of HS graduates or lower.  Instead, see above, it is nearly three times that number.  Roughly a third of them can actually do college level work and benefit from attending college.  The other two thirds do one of two things:
  • Never graduate, or
  • Switch majors repeatedly until they find something easy enough for them to pass, then eventually graduate, generally in 5 or more years, with a degree that doesn't really qualify them to do anything that they weren't already qualified to do when they graduated from HS a half-decade or more earlier.  
In either case, College was a massive waste of time and money for them.  They would be MUCH more likely to be employed and would make more money in almost all cases if they had Vocational training in something like what you listed, Manufacturing Tech, Welding, HVAC, etc.  


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Re: OSU and reality
« Reply #223 on: October 31, 2019, 03:22:26 PM »
Entropy isn't what it used to be.

 

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