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Topic: Odds we have a football season poll

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utee94

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Re: Odds we have a football season poll
« Reply #980 on: September 09, 2020, 05:16:14 PM »
the Big Ten should have taken that advantage early on and deferred their decision

instead of announcing a decision and then retracting it
Yeah, it was silly.  There was just no need at all, to make a decision about it back on August 13th or whatever it was.

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Re: Odds we have a football season poll
« Reply #981 on: September 09, 2020, 05:22:25 PM »
silly wasn't the term I was thinking of, but it fits
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Re: Odds we have a football season poll
« Reply #982 on: September 09, 2020, 06:00:20 PM »
As noted, I think the Pac and Big figured everyone else would fall in line.  And the numbers August 13 were not looking good at all, I didn't expect they would drop as they have (though we did see this in SWEDEN).  The way they could double down on silliness is to announce they are starting a week before the SEC effort collapses and is shut down, if that happens.  I'm a bit more optimistic now than in early August.

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Re: Odds we have a football season poll
« Reply #984 on: September 09, 2020, 07:38:10 PM »
Btw I'm not trying to be hyperbolic but I'm not 1000 percent certain the B1G survives this. I dunno - I keep looking for some sign of unity and I ain't seeing it.

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Re: Odds we have a football season poll
« Reply #986 on: September 09, 2020, 07:50:47 PM »
Btw I'm not trying to be hyperbolic but I'm not 1000 percent certain the B1G survives this. I dunno - I keep looking for some sign of unity and I ain't seeing it.
OSU to the SEC? That's be interesting.

Otherwise, no one is dropping out of the B1G payday and paying up for the privilege. 

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Re: Odds we have a football season poll
« Reply #987 on: September 09, 2020, 07:52:20 PM »

https://twitter.com/11W/status/1303828760035295234?s=19
So they can spend either public or department monies to get bogged down in court to get some monies, maybe? That'd be a choice, I guess.

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Re: Odds we have a football season poll
« Reply #988 on: September 09, 2020, 07:57:56 PM »
OSU to the SEC? That's be interesting.

Otherwise, no one is dropping out of the B1G payday and paying up for the privilege.
Well (1) hurt feelings can cause a lot of of knee jerk decisions.

(2) The money spigot may be in rough shape with the nature of cable and television these days. If you are OSU could you make more money in a union with other giant programs or in a union with Rutgers? 

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Re: Odds we have a football season poll
« Reply #989 on: September 09, 2020, 11:20:47 PM »

But that third way is never discussed by the people who argue it's safer for them to play. They don't argue it's safer for them to be on campus receiving support. They argue it's safer for them to play.

Because the 3rd isn't a viable option.
OSU is now having voluntary workouts, that NCAA says they can't have supervision; so no medical staff to take daily wellness checks. That's a statement of fact.
If they are not playing, they don't get routine covid tested. That's a statement of fact.
If they are not playing, they are only allowed to have 12 hours of supervised practice, anything more than that is an NCAA violation. That is a statement of fact.
They are no longer semi-quarantined and in a structured, monitored environment; they don't get access to on site medical staff. Whether at home or on campus, they have to go through the same channels the rest of the populace does. This is a statement of fact.
Because the vast majority of us do not utilize free time nearly as efficient as we do structured time. Being left to decide how we spend our day is more likely to lead to exposure than staying in a structure environment. This is a statement of opinion, but one shared by many others.

How does the broke athletic department justify paying for the services that they can't justify providing to the rest of the student population? I'd love to have that 3rd option, and I'd for that 3rd option to be available to my loved ones, and even you guys on the forum. But's it's Neverland. If they are not playing they no longer get (as) special treatment. 



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Re: Odds we have a football season poll
« Reply #990 on: September 09, 2020, 11:25:18 PM »
OSU to the SEC? That's be interesting.

Otherwise, no one is dropping out of the B1G payday and paying up for the privilege.

What pay day? if your not playing, your not getting paid.

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Re: Odds we have a football season poll
« Reply #991 on: September 10, 2020, 12:06:21 AM »
I don't understand schools like Utah that have furloughed their entire athletic department. 

How is the football program going to do their fall HS recruiting if they're furloughed? 

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Re: Odds we have a football season poll
« Reply #992 on: September 10, 2020, 12:41:51 AM »
I don't understand schools like Utah that have furloughed their entire athletic department.

How is the football program going to do their fall HS recruiting if they're furloughed?
They're not furloughed long term. They just have to take furloughs. Some are really long term, but most seem to be in the 1-2 week variety, in which case, you stagger them. 

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Re: Odds we have a football season poll
« Reply #993 on: September 10, 2020, 12:48:06 AM »
Well (1) hurt feelings can cause a lot of of knee jerk decisions.

(2) The money spigot may be in rough shape with the nature of cable and television these days. If you are OSU could you make more money in a union with other giant programs or in a union with Rutgers?
If hurt feelings are the driving factor, well, that's just an unfortunate state of affairs. 

To the second part, sure, if the other giant programs want to leave their spots and come join, sure. But in this scenario OSU is telling a set of giant programs to eff off. Sure Rutgers is one thing, but the Big Ten still has the fourth, sixth, 11th, 14th, 18th and 21sth highest revenue producing public school departments, plus 24 and 25. The SEC has 10 in the group, but the ACC has three, Big 12 two and Pac 12 one (USC might be up there).

Now, the SEC probably makes room because it's too profitable, though life becomes a little harder when a knee jerk decision has you leaving a conference. But if the SEC doesn't take you, you've cut off your nose to spite your face. 

 

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