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Topic: Odds we have a football season poll

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Honestbuckeye

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Re: Odds we have a football season poll
« Reply #700 on: August 20, 2020, 07:56:12 PM »
You do realize that Kevin Warren didn't cancel the season, right? It was the university Presidents voting. I doubt Kevin Warren even got a vote. At this point he's forced to defend the conference's decision, publicly, whether he agrees with it or not. That's the "fun" of the job.
No.  I don’t realize that.  There is much conflicting Input about that.   In fact I doubt there was ever a vote 
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Re: Odds we have a football season poll
« Reply #701 on: August 20, 2020, 08:26:19 PM »
I'm guess you lack data for this claim.
Your numbers are off Afro. Way off. You have asserted several inaccurate assumptions. 

1) Assumption 1: all 9,100 will contract the virus. This is absurd, and as NCJohn alludes too they are probably more likely to catch the virus in the wild than in a controlled environment. Let's go with the national average of 20%, so 1,800 may get infected. (I'm willing to bet all conferences cancel before we get to the 20%, but worse case example here.)
2) Assumption 2: Using general populace numbers for death rates. This subset of humans are the healthiest, and most resilient people in the planet, their numbers for serious cases will be much much smaller. The hospitalization rate for 20-29 year old low risk Americans is .0005 percent (54 out 100,000). That brings the number of serious illness due to Covid down to drum roll ... to 1 (.9ish but it's hard to infect .9 of a person, so let's keep that number at 1)
3) Assumption 3: Response to virus will mirror general populace. These athletes will be tested on a much more rigorous scale than the public is being tested. Cases will be caught faster, and athletes will have access to the best medical facilities to assist them in recovering. Everything done will be under the public media microscope, you bet everyone and anyone with money in this game will make sure top care is provided to these athletes. Again drastically reducing the potential of serious injury (notice I've switch from death to seriously ill) down another %40-%60 percent. 

All this to say there is about a 50 percent chance one (1) of these athletes gets seriously injured. To put it another way there about the same percentage chance one of these athletes dies from corona as there one of them dying via a Toilet. That's it we have to remove all indoor plumbing those porcelain devices are way too deadly. /s 

You fearmongering and ignorance is pathetic. It's borderline psychotic, but par for the course for your other outlandish outbursts so carry on I guess.

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Re: Odds we have a football season poll
« Reply #702 on: August 20, 2020, 08:30:14 PM »
What are you doing? It's not safe to come out from under your bed yet. We will let you know.

And doncha be taking your laptop under there either, as you can contract Covid in computervirus form.
C'mon.  You can do better than that.

There's nothing he's said that would lead anyone to believe that he's hiding under his bed.
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Re: Odds we have a football season poll
« Reply #703 on: August 20, 2020, 09:43:54 PM »
Your numbers are off Afro. Way off. You have asserted several inaccurate assumptions.

1) Assumption 1: all 9,100 will contract the virus.
The idea that you extracted this from my post is unbelievable.  I can't fathom you actually believe I suggested this.
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Re: Odds we have a football season poll
« Reply #704 on: August 20, 2020, 09:45:45 PM »
What are you doing? It's not safe to come out from under your bed yet. We will let you know.

And doncha be taking your laptop under there either, as you can contract Covid in computervirus form.
Linking masculinity with handling a virus makes you look BRILLIANT.
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Re: Odds we have a football season poll
« Reply #705 on: August 20, 2020, 09:53:23 PM »
Is it fear-mongering when it's just caution in regards to playing a game?  This is non-essential.  No one is more obsessed with college football than I am, but it's absurd to insist on it being played when so much is still unknown. 


Can you guarantee that 2 years from now 90% of these athletes won't have heart problems from playing football for this particular fall?  No.  
It is likely?  No.
Is it possible?  WE DON'T KNOW.

There's spring, there's next fall.  The sense of urgency for NOW is truly odd. 

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Re: Odds we have a football season poll
« Reply #706 on: August 20, 2020, 10:01:34 PM »
The also risk being confined to a wheelchair for the rest of their life on every play.

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Re: Odds we have a football season poll
« Reply #707 on: August 20, 2020, 11:37:08 PM »
The also risk being confined to a wheelchair for the rest of their life on every play.

We are all animals!
We certainly are....and all evolving in different ways.
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Re: Odds we have a football season poll
« Reply #708 on: August 21, 2020, 12:33:16 AM »

Have a cup of tea and take a nap. 
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Re: Odds we have a football season poll
« Reply #709 on: August 21, 2020, 01:17:32 AM »

https://twitter.com/wingoz/status/1296486281405501440?s=19
It is not just a Georgia State player, an Indiana player also contracted myocarditis from COVID-19, and NCAA football teams barely started practice. What will this look like after dozens of practices, guys in close proximity in the locker room and shower, guys hooting and hollering during practice, team huddles as the coach speaks at the close of practice, and players exerting themselves in close proximity, after 4-games are played? We just had a man die in our rural county 2-weeks before he was to have retired from COVID-19. I don't think we can pretend these times are normal, and carry on as if they were normal times.
I doubt that nonathlete students are any more at risk than college football players. This virus spreads when humans are in close contact with each other. Notre Dame started with in-person learning, and shortly thereafterwent to remote learning, and now they have so many positive tests with football players they suspended practice. They are going to play. How?

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Re: Odds we have a football season poll
« Reply #710 on: August 21, 2020, 01:32:00 AM »
Man lots of mud getting slung behind the scenes.

1) University of M*ch*g*n Cardiologists challenging the single paper Warren used to press for shutting the season down.

https://twitter.com/venkmurthy/status/1294406748678365191?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw%7Ctwcamp%5Etweetembed%7Ctwterm%5E1294406748678365191%7Ctwgr%5E&ref_url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.outkick.com%2Funiversity-of-michigan-cardiologist-questions-flawed-data-relied-on-by-big-ten-to-cancel-season%2F

2) Another report coming from OSU saying the presidents never voted to cancel the season, just opinions were given, and that this Warren is spearheading the shut down mostly on his own.

3) Another article highlighting the differences between two conferences:
Q) Why after six months of prevalence in the USA is the heart issue only to come to light now?
Big Ten: We always were aware of myocarditis risk but a key study published just two weeks ago in the major medical publication Journal of the American Medical Association (JAMA) alerts us that a whopping 78% of patients had myocardial inflammation. This study can’t be ignored.

SEC: Yes, we read JAMA too but that study involved patients whose youngest age was 45, used cardiac MRI and was only an imaging study. In other words, it was a much older demographic with MRI findings of questionable clinical significance.

4) Warren can't get his own kid to step down.

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Re: Odds we have a football season poll
« Reply #711 on: August 21, 2020, 08:28:41 AM »
This risk:reward computation is impossible to calculate.  ANY decision is likely to be wrong, I suspect.  It's like some political choices we have, both options are bad.  One may be worse.  LOTE.

Play?  Not play?  

Either option has very likely probable bad outcomes.

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Re: Odds we have a football season poll
« Reply #713 on: August 21, 2020, 09:34:51 AM »


2) Another report coming from OSU saying the presidents never voted to cancel the season, just opinions were given, and that this Warren is spearheading the shut down mostly on his own.

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This is just really offensive. If he was so concerned about it, he would have his son opt out without penalty. 

He is just an SEC sleeper cell. 
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