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betarhoalphadelta

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Re: NFL Crap 2021
« Reply #910 on: January 31, 2022, 03:11:39 PM »
Quote from: Mdot21 on January 31, 2022, 12:45:11 PM
Barry Sanders, Calvin Johnson, and Matt Stafford played longer on much crappier franchises and teams than the whiny little bitch OBJ did. None of them ever became distractions, never pointed blame at others, were always the consummate teammates and professionals, were always the first to take all the blame when things went wrong and were always the first to give the credit to their teammates when things when right.

I don't have a whole lot of respect for OBJ. He's a diva in the mold of Terrell Owens or Randy Moss, but he's never been and never will nowhere near as good as either of those guys. He's not even in the same universe talent or production wise as those guys.
I'm not defending OBJ as a person.

But the nature of the NFL is that you often have little control over your future. You get drafted to whatever team picks you, and you're stuck with them 4 years. 5 if they exercise the 5th year contract option. Perhaps he shouldn't have signed a contract extension with the Giants, but he did, and then he got traded to the Browns. 

He's a diva, sure. Maybe if Barry, Calvin, or Stafford were a little more diva, they'd have more than a combined zero super bowl appearances between them. Stafford is getting his first shot, in his 13th season, because he's not stuck on a dumpster fire team. 
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« Reply #911 on: January 31, 2022, 03:40:29 PM »
Quote from: MikeDeTiger on January 31, 2022, 01:29:08 PM
Hmm....some serious OBJ haters here.

I don't keep up with him nearly as much since leaving us, but he sure holds a lot of NFL records for a guy who's not good. 

On a related subject, pointing to championship rings--for anybody--is about as dumb as anything you can contrive.  Take a guy like Tom Brady...obviously a great case to be made for being the best ever.  But the margin that separates him and contemporaries like Manning and Brees are not that great, yet they only got 2 and 1 rings respectively.  There are so many other factors that it's not worth considering.  Andrew Whitworth has been perhaps the best OT in the league for 18 years, and this is the first he's ever sniffed a ring.  By this logic, Robert Horry is a greater basketball player than Michael Jordan.  More rings, bruh!
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I was watching the game yesterday. Did not know that LA has two former Badgers starting on OL. Kinda neat.
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« Reply #912 on: January 31, 2022, 04:33:13 PM »
The Rams had former Purdue TE Brycen Hopkins inactive yesterday, but Higbee left the game early with a knee injury. The Rams were running with only one healthy TE the rest of the game. 

Brycen Hopkins may play in the Super Bowl depending on whether the injury was serious... 
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« Reply #913 on: January 31, 2022, 04:55:05 PM »
Quote from: betarhoalphadelta on January 31, 2022, 03:11:39 PM
He's a diva, sure. Maybe if Barry, Calvin, or Stafford were a little more diva, they'd have more than a combined zero super bowl appearances between them. Stafford is getting his first shot, in his 13th season, because he's not stuck on a dumpster fire team.
says a lot about those guys that they never threw in the towel, became a distraction or a malcontent when they didn't get what they want and kept on doing their jobs and not being a problem while they were getting paid millions and millions of dollars to play a game. They aren't saving lives, they aren't making breakthrough discoveries in the sciences. They are playing a game.

Odell signed that fat contract with New York. If he didn't want to be there, he shouldn't have signed it. It's not like he was trapped on a bad team making nothing. They did only sign him to a 5-year, $100 million contract with $65 million in guarantees. Excuse me if I don't feel bad for someone making $20+ million a year because they are stuck on a crappy team. That's no excuse to be a whiny douche. Be a professional.
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« Reply #914 on: January 31, 2022, 05:15:38 PM »
Quote from: betarhoalphadelta on January 31, 2022, 03:11:39 PM
I'm not defending OBJ as a person.

But the nature of the NFL is that you often have little control over your future. You get drafted to whatever team picks you, and you're stuck with them 4 years. 5 if they exercise the 5th year contract option. Perhaps he shouldn't have signed a contract extension with the Giants, but he did, and then he got traded to the Browns.

He's a diva, sure. Maybe if Barry, Calvin, or Stafford were a little more diva, they'd have more than a combined zero super bowl appearances between them. Stafford is getting his first shot, in his 13th season, because he's not stuck on a dumpster fire team.
Also, Sanders and Johnson just straight up quit. OBJ just had his father cut a tape showing he was open because somehow he was getting blamed for the Browns not being good.
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« Reply #915 on: January 31, 2022, 05:18:39 PM »
Quote from: MaximumSam on January 31, 2022, 05:15:38 PM
Also, Sanders and Johnson just straight up quit. OBJ just had his father cut a tape showing he was open because somehow he was getting blamed for the Browns not being good.
I wouldn't say they just straight up quit. They retired. There's a difference. Can't play the game forever. Barry played 10 years, Calvin 9. Barry's passion for the game was gone, he just couldn't play anymore. Calvin's body was breaking down and he lost his passion on top of that.

Neither "quit" on their team a during a season or tried to force their way out to go to a new team where they thought they'd be happier. There was no quit in either of those guys. They both just retired. And once they retired, they were done. Neither ever even though of coming back to play football. That to me isn't quitting.

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« Reply #916 on: February 01, 2022, 07:32:55 AM »
Quote from: MikeDeTiger on January 31, 2022, 01:21:19 PM
But....ever heard of hyperbole, humor, and fandom?

To be fair that's what these 😎🤣😜 are for,so i can see taking you at your word there.


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Re: NFL Crap 2021
« Reply #917 on: February 01, 2022, 07:44:11 AM »
Quote from: MaximumSam on January 31, 2022, 05:15:38 PM
Also, Sanders and Johnson just straight up quit. OBJ just had his father cut a tape showing he was open because somehow he was getting blamed for the Browns not being good.
He wasn't getting blamed for the Browns problems,he just creates them.It's my understanding from listening to local sporsts talk that  he broke off his routes enough to be disruptive.the QB can't rely on timing patterns when some aren't sticking to the script.I really believe he was trying to over compensate for sitting out injured as the team had a better year w/o him.Mdot's right,crazy but right the diva should have to go to a real job for a while
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Re: NFL Crap 2021
« Reply #918 on: February 01, 2022, 10:14:16 AM »
Quote from: Mdot21 on January 31, 2022, 12:45:11 PM
Barry Sanders, Calvin Johnson, and Matt Stafford played longer on much crappier franchises and teams than the whiny little bitch OBJ did. None of them ever became distractions, never pointed blame at others, were always the consummate teammates and professionals, were always the first to take all the blame when things went wrong and were always the first to give the credit to their teammates when things when right.


Stafford’s immediate success with the Rams is widening the conversation around the Detroit Lions perpetual ineptitude. Detroit as a sort of black hole and wasteful of its best talent is such a known reality at this point that I’m wondering if potentially high draft picks will vocally refuse to be drafted to Detroit from now on.

We’ve seen guys like Eli Manning reject potentially playing for the Chargers along with John Elway similarly reject the Colts, but those were case by case one-offs. The Lions are so incompetent and squandering for so long I’m wondering if they risk becoming a league-wide franchise non grata to more than a few potential draftees who can leverage plans elsewhere before their drafting.

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« Reply #919 on: February 01, 2022, 10:22:23 AM »
Yeah, I'm not sure what's worse.  Everyone the Browns draft seems to be a bust.  The Lions have had talent...and just keep wasting it
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Re: NFL Crap 2021
« Reply #920 on: February 01, 2022, 10:29:07 AM »
Quote from: CatsbyAZ on February 01, 2022, 10:14:16 AM
Stafford’s immediate success with the Rams is widening the conversation around the Detroit Lions perpetual ineptitude. Detroit as a sort of black hole and wasteful of its best talent is such a known reality at this point that I’m wondering if potentially high draft picks will vocally refuse to be drafted to Detroit from now on.

We’ve seen guys like Eli Manning reject potentially playing for the Chargers along with John Elway similarly reject the Colts, but those were case by case one-offs. The Lions are so incompetent and squandering for so long I’m wondering if they risk becoming a league-wide franchise non grata to more than a few potential draftees who can leverage plans elsewhere before their drafting.
I've been saying that for years lol. If I was a top pick, I'd refuse to play for the Lions. I'd make them trade me or I'd just sit out and wait til the next draft.

I don't wish being drafted by the Lions on my worst enemy. And if I was Aidan Hutchinson and the Lions tried to draft me, I'd refuse to play for them.
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« Reply #921 on: February 01, 2022, 10:30:26 AM »
The GOAT retired today.
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« Reply #922 on: February 01, 2022, 10:32:35 AM »
Quote from: 847badgerfan on February 01, 2022, 10:30:26 AM
The GOAT retired today.
so weird to not be able to watch him play football next year. he's been a staple and pillar of the NFL for the last 20+ years.
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« Reply #923 on: February 01, 2022, 10:46:22 AM »
Quote from: Mdot21 on February 01, 2022, 10:29:07 AM
I've been saying that for years lol. If I was a top pick, I'd refuse to play for the Lions. I'd make them trade me or I'd just sit out and wait til the next draft.
Oh c'mon you were just railing about the divas.I'd be a dick Owner if I had the coin and draft their ass .let them sit for a year - that rarely works out for them
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